Discussion:
Microsoft sends Windows Control Panel to tech graveyard
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Sailfish
2024-08-27 15:14:10 UTC
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REF:
https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_deprecation/

[excerpt quote=\"
The Control Panel has been a feature of Windows since version 1.0 and
shows a list of applets from which a user can change the settings for
the operating system or other third-party applications. It's a
friendlier tool than diving into the registry or fiddling with
configuration files, but undeniably less attractive than the modern
Settings app.
\" /]

Control Panel less attractive? Debatable. Less obscure? most certainly!
//
Confirmation that the Control Panel is headed for the chopping block is
long overdue. For administrators who still use it to change the odd
setting or two, it is time to plan a migration.
//
Obscure posit ... migration could mean multiple considerations.
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John K.Eason
2024-08-27 18:10:00 UTC
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*Date:* Tue, 27 Aug 2024 08:14:10 -0700
https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_depreca
tion/
[excerpt quote=\"
The Control Panel has been a feature of Windows since version 1.0
and shows a list of applets from which a user can change the
settings for the operating system or other third-party
applications. It's a friendlier tool than diving into the registry
or fiddling with configuration files, but undeniably less
attractive than the modern Settings app.
\" /]
Control Panel less attractive? Debatable. Less obscure? most
certainly!
//
Confirmation that the Control Panel is headed for the chopping
block is long overdue. For administrators who still use it to
change the odd setting or two, it is time to plan a migration.
//
Obscure posit ... migration could mean multiple considerations.
They've changed their minds...

https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/27/the_windows_control_panel_joins/
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Regards
John
Sailfish
2024-08-28 22:46:02 UTC
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Post by John K.Eason
*Date:* Tue, 27 Aug 2024 08:14:10 -0700
https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_depreca
tion/
[excerpt quote=\"
The Control Panel has been a feature of Windows since version 1.0
and shows a list of applets from which a user can change the
settings for the operating system or other third-party
applications. It's a friendlier tool than diving into the registry
or fiddling with configuration files, but undeniably less
attractive than the modern Settings app.
\" /]
Control Panel less attractive? Debatable. Less obscure? most
certainly!
//
Confirmation that the Control Panel is headed for the chopping
block is long overdue. For administrators who still use it to
change the odd setting or two, it is time to plan a migration.
//
Obscure posit ... migration could mean multiple considerations.
They've changed their minds...
https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/27/the_windows_control_panel_joins/
More of a strategic retreat than a surrender.

I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy. They should move the legacy Control Panel to Power Toys
rather than dump it.
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Ralph Fox
2024-09-07 11:13:12 UTC
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I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
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Ralph Fox
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Sailfish
2024-09-07 16:03:24 UTC
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Post by Sailfish
I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
REF:
https://www.howtogeek.com/247141/how-to-change-the-format-of-dates-and-times-in-windows/

Is this the format you are wanting (scroll down until you see red arrow
and note the date format 2nd from bottom)?
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Ralph Fox
2024-09-07 22:26:45 UTC
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I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
https://www.howtogeek.com/247141/how-to-change-the-format-of-dates-and-times-in-windows/
Is this the format you are wanting (scroll down until you see red arrow
and note the date format 2nd from bottom)?
Here are screen-shots of the options which Microsoft gives me in
the Windows 'Settings' app in Windows 10 and in Windows 11. Your
'2nd from bottom' option is not there for me.

Win10: <Loading Image...>

Win11: <Loading Image...>


The Windows 10 'Settings' app has a link "Additional date, time &
regional settings" which opens the Control Panel. From there in
the Control Panel I can set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.

The Windows 11 'Settings' app does not have this.
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Sailfish
2024-09-08 02:04:36 UTC
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I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
https://www.howtogeek.com/247141/how-to-change-the-format-of-dates-and-times-in-windows/
Is this the format you are wanting (scroll down until you see red arrow
and note the date format 2nd from bottom)?
Here are screen-shots of the options which Microsoft gives me in
the Windows 'Settings' app in Windows 10 and in Windows 11. Your
'2nd from bottom' option is not there for me.
Win10: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win10_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
Win11: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win11_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
The Windows 10 'Settings' app has a link "Additional date, time &
regional settings" which opens the Control Panel. From there in
the Control Panel I can set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Windows 11 'Settings' app does not have this.
Ref: https://imgur.com/8ytOCxb

Here's mine from vBox Win10(64bit) Pro. The same is offered from my
desktop Win10(64bit) Pro system.

I saw some possible hits from Google that suggest a registry issue but
wasn't clear if the ones I found had to do with your issue so I'm
hesitate to include possibly misleading links.

Good luck
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Sailfish
2024-09-08 02:11:05 UTC
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Post by Sailfish
I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately
amounts to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
https://www.howtogeek.com/247141/how-to-change-the-format-of-dates-and-times-in-windows/
Is this the format you are wanting (scroll down until you see red
arrow and note the date format 2nd from bottom)?
Here are screen-shots of the options which Microsoft gives me in the
Windows 'Settings' app in Windows 10 and in Windows 11. Your '2nd
from bottom' option is not there for me.
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win10_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
<http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win11_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
The Windows 10 'Settings' app has a link "Additional date, time &
regional settings" which opens the Control Panel. From there in the
Control Panel I can set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Windows 11 'Settings' app does not have this.
Ref: https://imgur.com/8ytOCxb
Here's mine from vBox Win10(64bit) Pro. The same is offered from my
desktop Win10(64bit) Pro system.
I saw some possible hits from Google that suggest a registry issue but
wasn't clear if the ones I found had to do with your issue so I'm
hesitate to include possibly misleading links.
Good luck
btw, I notice that yours only displays one choice. Did you click on the
Short Date box drop-down arrow when selecting?
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Ralph Fox
2024-09-08 05:05:10 UTC
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I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
https://www.howtogeek.com/247141/how-to-change-the-format-of-dates-and-times-in-windows/
Is this the format you are wanting (scroll down until you see red arrow
and note the date format 2nd from bottom)?
Here are screen-shots of the options which Microsoft gives me in
the Windows 'Settings' app in Windows 10 and in Windows 11. Your
'2nd from bottom' option is not there for me.
Win10: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win10_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
Win11: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win11_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
The Windows 10 'Settings' app has a link "Additional date, time &
regional settings" which opens the Control Panel. From there in
the Control Panel I can set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Windows 11 'Settings' app does not have this.
Ref: https://imgur.com/8ytOCxb
Here's mine from vBox Win10(64bit) Pro. The same is offered from my
desktop Win10(64bit) Pro system.
I saw some possible hits from Google that suggest a registry issue but
wasn't clear if the ones I found had to do with your issue so I'm
hesitate to include possibly misleading links.
Microsoft's pick-list of short date formats varies by language/region.
For example:
* For the USA, the pick-list includes MM/dd/yyyy but not dd/MM/yyyy
* For the UK, the pick-list includes dd/MM/yyyy but not MM/dd/yyyy.

I might guess that the US pick-list includes an option yyyy-MM-dd just
because that is the default short date format for Canada next door.

For some languages/regions, Microsoft's pick-list of short date formats
has very few choices:

For Ireland, the pick-list has only 2 choices: 'dd/MM/yyyy' and 'd MMM yyyy'.
For NZ here, the pick-list has only 2 choices: 'd/MM/yyyy' and 'd/MM/yy'.


The Control Panel is not redundant for me, because it lets me choose
other short date formats which Microsoft's pick-list does not offer me.
Post by Sailfish
btw, I notice that yours only displays one choice. Did you click on the
Short Date box drop-down arrow when selecting?
Mine _is_ dropped down. Mine displays _two_ choices:

1) "5/04/2017" -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
2) "5/04/17" -- that is, d/MM/yy
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lisa
2024-09-08 08:42:25 UTC
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Post by Ralph Fox
Microsoft's pick-list of short date formats varies by language/region.
* For the USA, the pick-list includes MM/dd/yyyy but not dd/MM/yyyy
* For the UK, the pick-list includes dd/MM/yyyy but not MM/dd/yyyy.
I might guess that the US pick-list includes an option yyyy-MM-dd just
because that is the default short date format for Canada next door.
For some languages/regions, Microsoft's pick-list of short date formats
For Ireland, the pick-list has only 2 choices: 'dd/MM/yyyy' and 'd MMM yyyy'.
For NZ here, the pick-list has only 2 choices: 'd/MM/yyyy' and 'd/MM/yy'.
have a look at https://dualitysoft.com/dsclock/

your time display utility for every format and color you like
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Ralph Fox
2024-09-09 06:36:31 UTC
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Post by lisa
have a look at https://dualitysoft.com/dsclock/
your time display utility for every format and color you like
Thank you, but the desktop clock display is not one of my main reasons
for wanting yyyy-MM-dd.
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Ralph Fox
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Sailfish
2024-09-08 11:51:02 UTC
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I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option.
But I _can_ set this through the Control Panel.
https://www.howtogeek.com/247141/how-to-change-the-format-of-dates-and-times-in-windows/
Is this the format you are wanting (scroll down until you see red arrow
and note the date format 2nd from bottom)?
Here are screen-shots of the options which Microsoft gives me in
the Windows 'Settings' app in Windows 10 and in Windows 11. Your
'2nd from bottom' option is not there for me.
Win10: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win10_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
Win11: <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=27_vbhtg8__win11_date-format-options-in-settings-app.png>
The Windows 10 'Settings' app has a link "Additional date, time &
regional settings" which opens the Control Panel. From there in
the Control Panel I can set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
The Windows 11 'Settings' app does not have this.
Ref: https://imgur.com/8ytOCxb
Here's mine from vBox Win10(64bit) Pro. The same is offered from my
desktop Win10(64bit) Pro system.
I saw some possible hits from Google that suggest a registry issue but
wasn't clear if the ones I found had to do with your issue so I'm
hesitate to include possibly misleading links.
Microsoft's pick-list of short date formats varies by language/region.
* For the USA, the pick-list includes MM/dd/yyyy but not dd/MM/yyyy
* For the UK, the pick-list includes dd/MM/yyyy but not MM/dd/yyyy.
I might guess that the US pick-list includes an option yyyy-MM-dd just
because that is the default short date format for Canada next door.
For some languages/regions, Microsoft's pick-list of short date formats
For Ireland, the pick-list has only 2 choices: 'dd/MM/yyyy' and 'd MMM yyyy'.
For NZ here, the pick-list has only 2 choices: 'd/MM/yyyy' and 'd/MM/yy'.
The Control Panel is not redundant for me, because it lets me choose
other short date formats which Microsoft's pick-list does not offer me.
Post by Sailfish
btw, I notice that yours only displays one choice. Did you click on the
Short Date box drop-down arrow when selecting?
1) "5/04/2017" -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
2) "5/04/17" -- that is, d/MM/yy
Ref: https://imgur.com/u9ZCw6S

Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from
US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
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Ralph Fox
2024-09-08 18:34:32 UTC
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Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from
US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
Try Ireland or New Zealand instead, and note what you get.

I am in New Zealand. UK settings are not correct for me.
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Sailfish
2024-09-09 02:04:20 UTC
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Post by Sailfish
Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from
US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
Try Ireland or New Zealand instead, and note what you get.
I am in New Zealand. UK settings are not correct for me.
For either country, the Short Date is as you describe:

1) "5/04/2017" -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
2) "5/04/17" -- that is, d/MM/yy

However, it is as above whether I use Win7 Control Panel > Region
settings or Win10 Settings icon for those regions.
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Ralph Fox
2024-09-09 05:51:57 UTC
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Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from
US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
Try Ireland or New Zealand instead, and note what you get.
I am in New Zealand. UK settings are not correct for me.
1) "5/04/2017" -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
2) "5/04/17" -- that is, d/MM/yy
However, it is as above whether I use Win7 Control Panel > Region
settings or Win10 Settings icon for those regions.
Win7 Control Panel >> Region & Language >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab
There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when
it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.

Win10/11 Control Panel >> Clock & Region >> Region >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab
There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when
it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.

OTOH the Win10/11 Settings app has no place where one can type in a
date format which is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides.

That is one place where the Control Panel is not redundant.
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Paul
2024-09-09 06:23:41 UTC
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OTOH the Win10/11 Settings app has no place where one can type in a
date format which is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides.
That is one place where the Control Panel is not redundant.
There is a place in the Registry for that. That's how
you can customize. This might also be a stable enough feature,
to work on older versions of Windows.

We went through this exercise recently, but without
fully testing the customization capabilities. It's
not exactly "printf", but it does give you a few
options.

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\International
sShortDate REG_SZ ddd, M/d/yyyy

[Picture]

Loading Image...

Paul
Ralph Fox
2024-09-09 07:04:28 UTC
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There is a place in the Registry for that. That's how
you can customize. This might also be a stable enough feature,
to work on older versions of Windows.
When one can already customize that in the Control Panel, why would
one hack the Registry for the same end?

Yet another example, WinXP:
Control Panel >> Regional and Language Options >> "Regional Options" tab >> Customize >> "Date" tab
where one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the Short date field.
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Sailfish
2024-09-09 14:43:47 UTC
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Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from
US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
Try Ireland or New Zealand instead, and note what you get.
I am in New Zealand. UK settings are not correct for me.
1) "5/04/2017" -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
2) "5/04/17" -- that is, d/MM/yy
However, it is as above whether I use Win7 Control Panel > Region
settings or Win10 Settings icon for those regions.
Win7 Control Panel >> Region & Language >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab
There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when
it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.
Win10/11 Control Panel >> Clock & Region >> Region >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab
There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when
it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.
OTOH the Win10/11 Settings app has no place where one can type in a
date format which is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides.
That is one place where the Control Panel is not redundant.
Hmm, below are two links that depict changing the date formatting as you
described:

Win10 Control Panel Short Date Formatting
https://imgur.com/IoP2IKb

Win10 Setting App Short Date Formatting
https://imgur.com/PVPFy7z

They both allow for configuring custom setting, yes?
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Paul
2024-09-09 17:23:52 UTC
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Post by Ralph Fox
Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
Try Ireland or New Zealand instead, and note what you get.
I am in New Zealand.  UK settings are not correct for me.
  1)   "5/04/2017"          -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
  2)   "5/04/17"            -- that is, d/MM/yy
However, it is as above whether I use Win7 Control Panel > Region settings or Win10 Settings icon for those regions.
Win7 Control Panel >> Region & Language >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.
Win10/11 Control Panel >> Clock & Region >> Region >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.
OTOH the Win10/11 Settings app has no place where one can type in a date format which is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides.
That is one place where the Control Panel is not redundant.
Win10 Control Panel Short Date Formatting
https://imgur.com/IoP2IKb
Win10 Setting App Short Date Formatting
https://imgur.com/PVPFy7z
They both allow for configuring custom setting, yes?
Those look like pulldown menu, with four fixed choices in them.
Rather than being a single field you type a format string into.

It's the down-arrow on the right of the dialog that tells you
it is a menu and not a text entry box.

Someone was asking whether you could put the day-of-the-week
in there, and the pulldown menu doesn't have such an option.
While a menu gives you choices, it's not really "custom"
like writing a printf statement. Someone will always be
able to come up with a request the four menu choices don't meet.

Paul
Sailfish
2024-09-09 20:39:02 UTC
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Hmm, I changed the region settings to UK and note the differences from US but they still allow for the YYYY-MM-DD format, see above image link.
Try Ireland or New Zealand instead, and note what you get.
I am in New Zealand. UK settings are not correct for me.
1) "5/04/2017" -- that is, d/MM/yyyy
2) "5/04/17" -- that is, d/MM/yy
However, it is as above whether I use Win7 Control Panel > Region settings or Win10 Settings icon for those regions.
Win7 Control Panel >> Region & Language >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.
Win10/11 Control Panel >> Clock & Region >> Region >> "Formats" tab >> "Additional settings..." >> "Date" tab There, one can type "yyyy-MM-dd" into the 'Short date' field even when it is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides for one's country.
OTOH the Win10/11 Settings app has no place where one can type in a date format which is not in the pick-list which Microsoft provides.
That is one place where the Control Panel is not redundant.
Win10 Control Panel Short Date Formatting
https://imgur.com/IoP2IKb
Win10 Setting App Short Date Formatting
https://imgur.com/PVPFy7z
They both allow for configuring custom setting, yes?
Those look like pulldown menu, with four fixed choices in them.
Rather than being a single field you type a format string into.
It's the down-arrow on the right of the dialog that tells you
it is a menu and not a text entry box.
Someone was asking whether you could put the day-of-the-week
in there, and the pulldown menu doesn't have such an option.
While a menu gives you choices, it's not really "custom"
like writing a printf statement. Someone will always be
able to come up with a request the four menu choices don't meet.
They are drop-down boxes with a drop arrow; however, once one selects
the Region tab (upper right) > Related settings > Additional date, time
& regional settings it opens a Clock and Region dialog box.

At this point, it appears to be a dialog box that can more easily be
reached using ol'Skol Control Panel

From there, under Region, select Change date, time, or number formats
opens a Region dialog box and from there, selecting Additional
settings... button at bottom opens a Customize Format dialog box. From
there, selecting the Date tab displays the Short Date box with a
drop-down arrow which will display a list if the arrow is selected but
will also allow the user to evade the arrow and enter a customized date
format.

Convoluted for sure and much more obscure than Ol' Skol Control Panel
but is just another reason I prefer Win7 over Win7+ releases.

Note: there may be easier ways to get to the Customize Date setting
dialog without using Control Panel?
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Mark Lloyd
2024-09-07 18:39:10 UTC
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Post by Ralph Fox
Post by Sailfish
I understand their desire to lessen support to what ultimately amounts
to a redundancy.
The Control Panel is _not_ a redundancy for my needs.
Every computer I get, I set the short date format to yyyy-MM-dd.
I like big-endian date formats.
Post by Ralph Fox
The Settings App in Windows 11 does _not_ give me this option. But I
_can_ set this through the Control Panel.
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JJ
2024-08-27 21:34:48 UTC
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Post by Sailfish
https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_deprecation/
[excerpt quote=\"
The Control Panel has been a feature of Windows since version 1.0 and
shows a list of applets from which a user can change the settings for
the operating system or other third-party applications. It's a
friendlier tool than diving into the registry or fiddling with
configuration files, but undeniably less attractive than the modern
Settings app.
\" /]
Control Panel less attractive? Debatable. Less obscure? most certainly!
//
Confirmation that the Control Panel is headed for the chopping block is
long overdue. For administrators who still use it to change the odd
setting or two, it is time to plan a migration.
//
Obscure posit ... migration could mean multiple considerations.
Good thing it's not affecting Windows 7.
Windows 8+ Settings "app" is a downgrade of the control panel. Providing
less control to system settings, requiring more clicks to get something
done, wasting more memory, and wasting more screen space.
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2024-08-29 15:25:00 UTC
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Post by Sailfish
https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/22/windows_control_panel_deprecation/
[excerpt quote=\"
The Control Panel has been a feature of Windows since version 1.0 and
shows a list of applets from which a user can change the settings for
the operating system or other third-party applications. It's a
friendlier tool than diving into the registry or fiddling with
configuration files, but undeniably less attractive than the modern
Settings app.
I think M$ changed her mind....

Windows’ Control Panel to Stay, Microsoft Clarifies Now After Trending
Last Week | Tech Times
<https://www.techtimes.com/articles/307267/20240827/windows-control-panel-stay-microsoft-clarifies-now-trending-last-week.htm>
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