Discussion:
Wearily I ask again: "Who programs this shit!?"
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Java Jive
2024-06-16 14:07:34 UTC
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Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.

To begin with, it takes some time just displaying ...
Getting a few things ready
... then the usual EULA comes up, then it displays again ...
Getting a few things ready
[Aside: As a simple point of English, shouldn't that be: "Getting a few
*MORE* things ready" the second and later times around?]
... then you get to choose to upgrade the PC then and there, or create
installation media, I chose the latter.

Next you get to choose the language, edition, and architecture. I'm in
the UK, my regional settings are UK, but that choice is initially greyed
out, because "Use the recommended settings for this PC is selected, and
that's "English US", so that's an error, albeit a relatively small one,
unfortunately, bigger and stupider ones follow. I uncheck the default
settings, choose English UK, and select both 32 & 64 bit architectures.
Then there's another display of ...
Getting a few things ready
... before ...
16GB of free disk space needed on (C:)
[Aside, as a simple point of English, why the brackets around 'C:'?]
Well, duh! There's about 750GB free on D:, so why not use that? But
no, I'm not given any chance to tell it to be sensible, it won't let me
tell it where to store temporary files, or even wait until I've cleared
some space so I can tell it to try to get past this point again. I have
to abort the program and rerun it.

I cleared enough space easily by temporarily disabling hibernation which
releases at one stroke 32GB of extra space by deleting 'hiberfil.sys',
and then tried to rerun the program, but now it aborted almost
immediately with an error message that conveyed no useful information as
to what exactly was wrong when it had got past that stage without error
before, but hinted that rebooting may help. WTF? So now I have to lose
my desktop of a dozen or so running programs and reload it all just to
overcome someone else's incompetency?

So I reboot, and run it again, waiting wearily all over again while it
repeatedly displays ...
Getting a few things ready
... and now it gets past the disk space check to the next screen which
enables you to choose between creating media then and there or creating
ISOs, and I choose the latter, only *NOW* to be given a choice as to
where to save the files, thus proving that my disabling hibernation, and
having even to reboot, was all for nothing.

When the dialog box comes up to save the file, its default name is just
'Windows.iso'; there is no version information, no architecture
information, nothing useful like that, so, unless I give it a sensible
name myself, in a few weeks time, how am I going to remember what the
file actually is?

Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
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pyotr filipivich
2024-06-16 15:31:35 UTC
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Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
{excised tale of woe dealing with MSft idiocy.}
Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
tschus
pyotr
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Java Jive
2024-06-16 16:54:04 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
{excised tale of woe dealing with MSft idiocy.}
Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
--
Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk
J. P. Gilliver
2024-06-16 17:49:07 UTC
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Post by Java Jive
Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
{excised tale of woe dealing with MSft idiocy.}
Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
Seconded! Is it a pyotr original, or did you get it from somewhere? (I'd
like to add it to my quotes file, and I like to give credit.)
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Ant
2024-06-17 00:26:22 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
{excised tale of woe dealing with MSft idiocy.}
Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
Seconded! Is it a pyotr original, or did you get it from somewhere? (I'd
like to add it to my quotes file, and I like to give credit.)
Ditto. :D
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pyotr filipivich
2024-06-17 15:20:41 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Java Jive
Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
{excised tale of woe dealing with MSft idiocy.}
Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
Seconded! Is it a pyotr original, or did you get it from somewhere? (I'd
like to add it to my quotes file, and I like to give credit.)
I stole it from somewhere.
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pyotr filipivich
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Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
J. P. Gilliver
2024-06-17 17:23:55 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Java Jive
Post by pyotr filipivich
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
Seconded! Is it a pyotr original, or did you get it from somewhere? (I'd
like to add it to my quotes file, and I like to give credit.)
I stole it from somewhere.
Ah. Should I put "stolen by"? (-:
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pyotr filipivich
2024-06-18 16:32:26 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Java Jive
Post by pyotr filipivich
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
Seconded! Is it a pyotr original, or did you get it from somewhere? (I'd
like to add it to my quotes file, and I like to give credit.)
I stole it from somewhere.
It's a meme. It has been appropriated by hundred, nay dozens.
Hundred of Dozens.
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pyotr filipivich
This Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them.
Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them(tm)
Selecting who insufficiently Woke(tm) as to serve as the new Them(tm)
J. P. Gilliver
2024-06-18 17:54:48 UTC
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Post by pyotr filipivich
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Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Java Jive
Post by pyotr filipivich
Microsoft. If it ever makes a product which doesn't suck, it will
be a vacuum cleaner.
LOL! An excellent response!
Seconded! Is it a pyotr original, or did you get it from somewhere? (I'd
like to add it to my quotes file, and I like to give credit.)
I stole it from somewhere.
It's a meme. It has been appropriated by hundred, nay dozens.
Hundred of Dozens.
OK, thanks. Added to signature file without attribution.
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J. P. Gilliver
2024-06-16 17:52:21 UTC
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In message <v4mrj9$33jd$***@dont-email.me> at Sun, 16 Jun 2024 15:07:34,
Java Jive <***@evij.com.invalid> writes
[All-too-familiar tale of woe snipped]
Post by Java Jive
When the dialog box comes up to save the file, its default name is just
'Windows.iso'; there is no version information, no architecture
information, nothing useful like that, so, unless I give it a sensible
name myself, in a few weeks time, how am I going to remember what the
file actually is?
That last one might be a desire to keep to 8.3 filenames - I can imagine
cases where things might be restricted to those. (Though with a bit of
imagination ... W7HP_32, for example.)
Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
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The best way to achieve immortality is by not dying.
H***@circa.net
2024-06-16 20:03:08 UTC
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Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
To begin with, it takes some time just displaying ...
Getting a few things ready
... then the usual EULA comes up, then it displays again ...
Getting a few things ready
[Aside: As a simple point of English, shouldn't that be: "Getting a few
*MORE* things ready" the second and later times around?]
... then you get to choose to upgrade the PC then and there, or create
installation media, I chose the latter.
Next you get to choose the language, edition, and architecture. I'm in
the UK, my regional settings are UK, but that choice is initially greyed
out, because "Use the recommended settings for this PC is selected, and
that's "English US", so that's an error, albeit a relatively small one,
unfortunately, bigger and stupider ones follow. I uncheck the default
settings, choose English UK, and select both 32 & 64 bit architectures.
Then there's another display of ...
Getting a few things ready
... before ...
16GB of free disk space needed on (C:)
[Aside, as a simple point of English, why the brackets around 'C:'?]
Well, duh! There's about 750GB free on D:, so why not use that? But
no, I'm not given any chance to tell it to be sensible, it won't let me
tell it where to store temporary files, or even wait until I've cleared
some space so I can tell it to try to get past this point again. I have
to abort the program and rerun it.
I cleared enough space easily by temporarily disabling hibernation which
releases at one stroke 32GB of extra space by deleting 'hiberfil.sys',
and then tried to rerun the program, but now it aborted almost
immediately with an error message that conveyed no useful information as
to what exactly was wrong when it had got past that stage without error
before, but hinted that rebooting may help. WTF? So now I have to lose
my desktop of a dozen or so running programs and reload it all just to
overcome someone else's incompetency?
So I reboot, and run it again, waiting wearily all over again while it
repeatedly displays ...
Getting a few things ready
... and now it gets past the disk space check to the next screen which
enables you to choose between creating media then and there or creating
ISOs, and I choose the latter, only *NOW* to be given a choice as to
where to save the files, thus proving that my disabling hibernation, and
having even to reboot, was all for nothing.
When the dialog box comes up to save the file, its default name is just
'Windows.iso'; there is no version information, no architecture
information, nothing useful like that, so, unless I give it a sensible
name myself, in a few weeks time, how am I going to remember what the
file actually is?
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
--
Fake news kills!
www.macfh.co.uk
Why are you posting this Windows 10 stuff in a Windows 7 group?
Java Jive
2024-06-16 23:16:18 UTC
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Post by H***@circa.net
Post by Java Jive
Today, I found a need to rerun the Windows 10 Media creation tool to
remake my W10 installation ISOs.
To begin with, it takes some time just displaying ...
Getting a few things ready
... then the usual EULA comes up, then it displays again ...
Getting a few things ready
[Aside: As a simple point of English, shouldn't that be: "Getting a few
*MORE* things ready" the second and later times around?]
... then you get to choose to upgrade the PC then and there, or create
installation media, I chose the latter.
Next you get to choose the language, edition, and architecture. I'm in
the UK, my regional settings are UK, but that choice is initially greyed
out, because "Use the recommended settings for this PC is selected, and
that's "English US", so that's an error, albeit a relatively small one,
unfortunately, bigger and stupider ones follow. I uncheck the default
settings, choose English UK, and select both 32 & 64 bit architectures.
Then there's another display of ...
Getting a few things ready
... before ...
16GB of free disk space needed on (C:)
[Aside, as a simple point of English, why the brackets around 'C:'?]
Well, duh! There's about 750GB free on D:, so why not use that? But
no, I'm not given any chance to tell it to be sensible, it won't let me
tell it where to store temporary files, or even wait until I've cleared
some space so I can tell it to try to get past this point again. I have
to abort the program and rerun it.
I cleared enough space easily by temporarily disabling hibernation which
releases at one stroke 32GB of extra space by deleting 'hiberfil.sys',
and then tried to rerun the program, but now it aborted almost
immediately with an error message that conveyed no useful information as
to what exactly was wrong when it had got past that stage without error
before, but hinted that rebooting may help. WTF? So now I have to lose
my desktop of a dozen or so running programs and reload it all just to
overcome someone else's incompetency?
So I reboot, and run it again, waiting wearily all over again while it
repeatedly displays ...
Getting a few things ready
... and now it gets past the disk space check to the next screen which
enables you to choose between creating media then and there or creating
ISOs, and I choose the latter, only *NOW* to be given a choice as to
where to save the files, thus proving that my disabling hibernation, and
having even to reboot, was all for nothing.
When the dialog box comes up to save the file, its default name is just
'Windows.iso'; there is no version information, no architecture
information, nothing useful like that, so, unless I give it a sensible
name myself, in a few weeks time, how am I going to remember what the
file actually is?
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
--
Fake news kills!
www.macfh.co.uk
Why are you posting this Windows 10 stuff in a Windows 7 group?
Because I am running Windows 7! Why are you including the entirety of
my post, including the sig which definitely shouldn't be there, without
making any attempt to snip it?
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Fake news kills!

I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
www.macfh.co.uk
JJ
2024-06-16 21:57:02 UTC
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Post by Java Jive
Just *WHO* programs shit as bad as this?
Well, you want Windows 10. That problem is just part of a bigger problem.

NTLite may do a better job.
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