Stubborn File - Can't Delete

[SteveGG]

Moved Google Pro to a different folder location and
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\ ...
... GoogleCrashHandler64.exe
( old location ), won't delete. All security parameters
have been set to full control etc., but NG. Tried File Assisin.
No big deal as it causes no real harm. but I like things
neat and tidy. Any help appreciated and thanks.

[Paul]

Post by SteveGG
Moved Google Pro to a different folder location and
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\ ...
... GoogleCrashHandler64.exe
( old location ), won't delete. All security parameters
have been set to full control etc., but NG. Tried File Assisin.
No big deal as it causes no real harm. but I like things
neat and tidy. Any help appreciated and thanks.

Are you sure that isn't currently loaded and being used ?

Google Update is only supposed to remove itself, if all
Google products are removed. It's possible something
there runs as a service or the like. Multiple Google products
could call on that for update services. I don't know
exactly how to uninstall it - it may or may not have a separate
entry in Programs and Features.

*******

Pendmove/Movefile uses the same OS features as the
OS Windows Update logic. It can schedule a file for
deletion on a reboot. It if was running as a service,
the services could be shut down at that point, making
removal possible.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/pendmoves

If it was a service or loaded as a Startup Item, then you might
see a dialog once you've deleted it. You could use Sysinternals
Autoruns ahead of removing it, to check to see whether it's wired
up in there somewhere. Autoruns lists the various Startup methods
all in one big list. Once you've disabled it in Autoruns, you
can then attempt to delete the file.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns

If any other Google products attempt to call that service,
then... tough :-) They probably won't fall over, on the attempt.

Paul

[Rene Lamontagne]

Post by Paul

Moved Google Pro to a different folder location and C:\Program Files
(x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\ ...
    ... GoogleCrashHandler64.exe
( old location ), won't delete. All security parameters
have been set to full control etc., but NG. Tried File Assisin.
No big deal as it causes no real harm. but I like things
neat and tidy. Any help appreciated and thanks.

Are you sure that isn't currently loaded and being used ?
Google Update is only supposed to remove itself, if all
Google products are removed. It's possible something
there runs as a service or the like. Multiple Google products
could call on that for update services. I don't know
exactly how to uninstall it - it may or may not have a separate
entry in Programs and Features.
*******
Pendmove/Movefile uses the same OS features as the
OS Windows Update logic. It can schedule a file for
deletion on a reboot. It if was running as a service,
the services could be shut down at that point, making
removal possible.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/pendmoves
If it was a service or loaded as a Startup Item, then you might
see a dialog once you've deleted it. You could use Sysinternals
Autoruns ahead of removing it, to check to see whether it's wired
up in there somewhere. Autoruns lists the various Startup methods
all in one big list. Once you've disabled it in Autoruns, you
can then attempt to delete the file.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/autoruns
If any other Google products attempt to call that service,
then... tough :-) They probably won't fall over, on the attempt.
   Paul

Why not delete it from a Linux live CD?

Rene

[Paul]

Post by Rene Lamontagne

Post by Paul

Moved Google Pro to a different folder location and C:\Program Files
(x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\ ...
... GoogleCrashHandler64.exe
( old location ), won't delete. All security parameters
have been set to full control etc., but NG. Tried File Assisin.
No big deal as it causes no real harm. but I like things
neat and tidy. Any help appreciated and thanks.

Are you sure that isn't currently loaded and being used ?
Paul

Why not delete it from a Linux live CD?
Rene

Yeah, that'll work.

If there was an "uninst" in the folder or some other trick,
there might be a better way to remove it via Windows. I don't
know if that Google crap is intended to remove easily or not.
I don't really believe the statement that it "gets removed
when the last Google product is removed from the OS". That
sounds so... unlikely.

So I tossed a couple file names into a Google search, these two...

C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\npGoogleUpdate3.dll <--- A Firefox plugin
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\GoogleCrashHandler.exe <--- ??? Really?

and it really is messy to deal with. While this has some suggestions,
I'm not getting a "strong theme" as to how this works, whether it
has multiple vectors, or what's going on. It almost looks like
the Google application it is "helping", helps to put it back.
And it seems to be hacking the browser to get its own way.

https://www.ghacks.net/2012/07/17/current-version-of-the-google-update-plugin-how-to-remove/

Their Task Manager shows an EXE running - is that in that folder too ?

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"GoogleUpdate.exe" x32

Paul

[KenW]

Post by Paul

Post by Rene Lamontagne

Post by Paul

Moved Google Pro to a different folder location and C:\Program Files
(x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\ ...
... GoogleCrashHandler64.exe
( old location ), won't delete. All security parameters
have been set to full control etc., but NG. Tried File Assisin.
No big deal as it causes no real harm. but I like things
neat and tidy. Any help appreciated and thanks.

Are you sure that isn't currently loaded and being used ?
Paul

Why not delete it from a Linux live CD?
Rene

Yeah, that'll work.
If there was an "uninst" in the folder or some other trick,
there might be a better way to remove it via Windows. I don't
know if that Google crap is intended to remove easily or not.
I don't really believe the statement that it "gets removed
when the last Google product is removed from the OS". That
sounds so... unlikely.
So I tossed a couple file names into a Google search, these two...
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\npGoogleUpdate3.dll <--- A Firefox plugin
C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Update\1.3.33.5\GoogleCrashHandler.exe <--- ??? Really?
and it really is messy to deal with. While this has some suggestions,
I'm not getting a "strong theme" as to how this works, whether it
has multiple vectors, or what's going on. It almost looks like
the Google application it is "helping", helps to put it back.
And it seems to be hacking the browser to get its own way.
https://www.ghacks.net/2012/07/17/current-version-of-the-google-update-plugin-how-to-remove/
Their Task Manager shows an EXE running - is that in that folder too ?
https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/google-update-plugin-running-windows.png
"GoogleUpdate.exe" x32
Paul

Took all kinds of fancy foot work the one time I removed it. Too
involved to even remember how ! Now it is back with Chrome.


KenW

[SteveGG]

Don't know why but after a reboot, all was gone.

[Paul]

Post by SteveGG
Don't know why but after a reboot, all was gone.

Next time, you can run "PendMove" in the example,
and get back a list of things "scheduled to be removed".

If it "disappeared on a reboot", that's how it happened.
It was put into a queue for removal. And with the
Sysinternals tool, you can find out what is in the queue
to be processed. Once you reboot, the file will be
gone, and the queue (slightly) cleared. I've seen
crap left in the queue, with no explanation of why
it is still there.

And the reason for doing it that way, is if some
services (with dependencies) is running and it's
not possible to stop it - they need a way to deal
with that. During shutdown or startup, such services
might not be running, and that's when the delete happens.

Paul