Why does the Recycle bin "beleive" it is a Directory of Music?

[pyotr filipivich]

That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of

I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

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Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

One point of annoyance for me is to keep reading useless questions and
comments from idiots who knows nothing about how windows works but keep
giving wrong advise to genuine windows users.

You could stop giving advise and that would reduce the count of
advise-giving idiots by one. I'm assuming your are a man of action and
will take this opportunity to improve the net for all of us "genuine"
windows users. TIA!

[Ed Cryer]

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

One point of annoyance for me is to keep reading useless questions and
comments from idiots who knows nothing about how windows works but keep
giving wrong advise to genuine windows users.
--
With over 1.2 billion devices now running Windows 10, customer
satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows.

You do generate bad karma, pal. You must live with it buzzing all around
you all the time, like a swarm of bees.
https://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-20225/7-strategies-to-get-rid-of-your-bad-karma.html

Ed

[Big Al]

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

Dispite GG's stupid reply, I think you can right click and change the properties of that folder to make it some generic format. Something
must has configured it for music, like you deleted some music files and Windows (albeit stupidly) assumed it was a music folder.

Al

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Big Al

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

Dispite GG's stupid reply, I think you can right click and change the properties of that folder to make it some generic format. Something
must has configured it for music, like you deleted some music files and Windows (albeit stupidly) assumed it was a music folder.

Thanks, I've done that. I suspect that Microsoft has once again
tried to "enhance my computing experience" by doing what didn't need
to be done, badly.

[David E. Ross]

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

On the menu bar, select [View > Choose details]. Uncheck the check
boxes for the details you do not want to see.

[VanguardLH]

That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it has
been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers for
title, album, artist and the like? is full of

You don't mention how you are viewing the Recycle Bin.

- Did you change the view in File Explorer to show hidden files and also
deselect to hide system files, so you can see and enter the
$Recycle.Bin to see its contents in the file list pane of File
Explorer?

- Did you select the Recycle Bin folder shown in the folder/drive left
pane of File Explorer or double-click the Recycle Bin desktop icon to
open it in File Explorer?

In either case, I don't have the columns that you mention. I only have:

Name
Original Location
Date Deleted
Size
Item Type
Date Modified

Right-clicking on either shows only a General tab (no Custom tab) with
some config options.

Did you do a fresh install of Windows, or do you do an upgrade? Maybe
the recycle folder you are asking about is the old one that is no longer
used.

{drive:\}RECYCLED FAT under Windows 98
{drive:\}RECYCLER NTFS under Windows NT, 2000, XP
{drive:\}$Recyle.Bin Windows Vista, and up

You didn't say where is the Recycle Bin folder nor by what folder name.
The folder is not present on some storage media, like flash drives,
memory cards, or network drives. You didn't say which drive you were
viewing its Recycle Bin folder.

[Rene Lamontagne]

Post by VanguardLH

That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it has
been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers for
title, album, artist and the like? is full of

You don't mention how you are viewing the Recycle Bin.
- Did you change the view in File Explorer to show hidden files and also
deselect to hide system files, so you can see and enter the
$Recycle.Bin to see its contents in the file list pane of File
Explorer?
- Did you select the Recycle Bin folder shown in the folder/drive left
pane of File Explorer or double-click the Recycle Bin desktop icon to
open it in File Explorer?
Name
Original Location
Date Deleted
Size
Item Type
Date Modified
Right-clicking on either shows only a General tab (no Custom tab) with
some config options.
Did you do a fresh install of Windows, or do you do an upgrade? Maybe
the recycle folder you are asking about is the old one that is no longer
used.
{drive:\}RECYCLED FAT under Windows 98
{drive:\}RECYCLER NTFS under Windows NT, 2000, XP
{drive:\}$Recyle.Bin Windows Vista, and up
You didn't say where is the Recycle Bin folder nor by what folder name.
The folder is not present on some storage media, like flash drives,
memory cards, or network drives. You didn't say which drive you were
viewing its Recycle Bin folder.

On mine , if right click I get VanguardLHd list, but at the bottom it
has the word *More*, If I click it I get another whole new list with
audio stuff boxes, camera boxes and a bunch of other stuff that you can
select, This is where the OP needs to go.

Rene

[VanguardLH]

Post by Rene Lamontagne
On mine , if right click I get VanguardLHd list, but at the bottom it
has the word *More*, If I click it I get another whole new list with
audio stuff boxes, camera boxes and a bunch of other stuff that you can
select, This is where the OP needs to go.

Oops, I'm using Windows 10, not Windows 7. Might be different options
in the Recycle Bin properties sheet than what I see.

In a Google Image search, this is what others say they see when using
Windows 7 and looking at the properties of Recycle Bin:

Loading Image...

No "More" button in properties.

If I use File Explorer (in Win 10) to look inside the C:\$Recycle.Bin
folder, there is no "More" button in the ribbon bar. In File Explorer,
and after configuring it to show hidden and unhide system files, and I
right-click on the $Recycle.Bin folder to select properties, I get the
standard property sheets: General, Sharing, Security, Previous Versions,
and Customize. When I look at the Customize tab which show the type the
folder has been assigned, it is "Optimize this folder for: General
items" (not "Music" or some other pre-defined folder template).

I still do not see a "More" button in the properaties for the
$Recycle.Bin folder under any property sheet (aka tab). However, again,
I'm on Windows 10 using File Explorer, not on Windows 7 using Windows
Explorer.

Note: Under the $Recycle.Bin folder is a Recycle Bin subfolder.
Right-clicking on that subfolder to see properties shows me the same
ones when I right-click on the desktop shortcut.

When you right-click on the Recycle Bin desktop shortcut and select
Properties from the context menu, how many tabs do you see? When you
configure Windows Explorer to show hidden files and unhide system files,
what properties sheets do you see when right-clicking on the
$Recycle.Bin folder at the root of a drive? When go under that folder
and right-click on the Recycle Bin subfolder to see properties, are they
same as when you right-clicked on the desktop Recycle Bin icon?

What I see for properties is what the online images show for the Recycle
Bin, even for Windows 7. Could you save a screenshot and upload to to
show just where you see a "More" button?

[Rene Lamontagne]

Post by VanguardLH

Post by Rene Lamontagne
On mine , if right click I get VanguardLHd list, but at the bottom it
has the word *More*, If I click it I get another whole new list with
audio stuff boxes, camera boxes and a bunch of other stuff that you can
select, This is where the OP needs to go.

Oops, I'm using Windows 10, not Windows 7. Might be different options
in the Recycle Bin properties sheet than what I see.
In a Google Image search, this is what others say they see when using
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PSzCZXMnvUg/T6gJhehmpxI/AAAAAAAABOk/viEZSrwBVPA/s400/recycle_bin_settings.jpg
http://youtu.be/fLOj8TPbJI4
No "More" button in properties.
If I use File Explorer (in Win 10) to look inside the C:\$Recycle.Bin
folder, there is no "More" button in the ribbon bar. In File Explorer,
and after configuring it to show hidden and unhide system files, and I
right-click on the $Recycle.Bin folder to select properties, I get the
standard property sheets: General, Sharing, Security, Previous Versions,
and Customize. When I look at the Customize tab which show the type the
folder has been assigned, it is "Optimize this folder for: General
items" (not "Music" or some other pre-defined folder template).
I still do not see a "More" button in the properaties for the
$Recycle.Bin folder under any property sheet (aka tab). However, again,
I'm on Windows 10 using File Explorer, not on Windows 7 using Windows
Explorer.
Note: Under the $Recycle.Bin folder is a Recycle Bin subfolder.
Right-clicking on that subfolder to see properties shows me the same
ones when I right-click on the desktop shortcut.
When you right-click on the Recycle Bin desktop shortcut and select
Properties from the context menu, how many tabs do you see? When you
configure Windows Explorer to show hidden files and unhide system files,
what properties sheets do you see when right-clicking on the
$Recycle.Bin folder at the root of a drive? When go under that folder
and right-click on the Recycle Bin subfolder to see properties, are they
same as when you right-clicked on the desktop Recycle Bin icon?
What I see for properties is what the online images show for the Recycle
Bin, even for Windows 7. Could you save a screenshot and upload to to
show just where you see a "More" button?

Using Windows 10 here is what I see.




Rene

[Rene Lamontagne]

Post by Rene Lamontagne
On mine , if right click I get VanguardLHd list, but at the bottom it
has the word *More*, If I click it I get another whole new list with
audio stuff boxes, camera boxes and a bunch of other stuff that you can
select, This is where the OP needs to go.

Oops, I'm using Windows 10, not Windows 7.  Might be different options
in the Recycle Bin properties sheet than what I see.
In a Google Image search, this is what others say they see when using
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PSzCZXMnvUg/T6gJhehmpxI/AAAAAAAABOk/viEZSrwBVPA/s400/recycle_bin_settings.jpg
http://youtu.be/fLOj8TPbJI4
No "More" button in properties.
If I use File Explorer (in Win 10) to look inside the C:\$Recycle.Bin
folder, there is no "More" button in the ribbon bar.  In File Explorer,
and after configuring it to show hidden and unhide system files, and I
right-click on the $Recycle.Bin folder to select properties, I get the
standard property sheets: General, Sharing, Security, Previous Versions,
and Customize.  When I look at the Customize tab which show the type the
folder has been assigned, it is "Optimize this folder for: General
items" (not "Music" or some other pre-defined folder template).
I still do not see a "More" button in the properaties for the
$Recycle.Bin folder under any property sheet (aka tab).  However, again,
I'm on Windows 10 using File Explorer, not on Windows 7 using Windows
Explorer.
Note: Under the $Recycle.Bin folder is a Recycle Bin subfolder.
Right-clicking on that subfolder to see properties shows me the same
ones when I right-click on the desktop shortcut.
When you right-click on the Recycle Bin desktop shortcut and select
Properties from the context menu, how many tabs do you see?  When you
configure Windows Explorer to show hidden files and unhide system files,
what properties sheets do you see when right-clicking on the
$Recycle.Bin folder at the root of a drive?  When go under that folder
and right-click on the Recycle Bin subfolder to see properties, are they
same as when you right-clicked on the desktop Recycle Bin icon?
What I see for properties is what the online images show for the Recycle
Bin, even for Windows 7.  Could you save a screenshot and upload to to
show just where you see a "More" button?

Using Windows 10  here is what I see.
Rene

I screwed up

Using Windows 10 here is what I see.

Loading Image...

That should work

Rene

[Rene Lamontagne]

Post by Rene Lamontagne

Post by Rene Lamontagne
On mine , if right click I get VanguardLHd list, but at the bottom it
has the word *More*, If I click it I get another whole new list with
audio stuff boxes, camera boxes and a bunch of other stuff that you can
select, This is where the OP needs to go.

Oops, I'm using Windows 10, not Windows 7.  Might be different options
in the Recycle Bin properties sheet than what I see.
In a Google Image search, this is what others say they see when using
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PSzCZXMnvUg/T6gJhehmpxI/AAAAAAAABOk/viEZSrwBVPA/s400/recycle_bin_settings.jpg
http://youtu.be/fLOj8TPbJI4
No "More" button in properties.
If I use File Explorer (in Win 10) to look inside the C:\$Recycle.Bin
folder, there is no "More" button in the ribbon bar.  In File Explorer,
and after configuring it to show hidden and unhide system files, and I
right-click on the $Recycle.Bin folder to select properties, I get the
standard property sheets: General, Sharing, Security, Previous Versions,
and Customize.  When I look at the Customize tab which show the type the
folder has been assigned, it is "Optimize this folder for: General
items" (not "Music" or some other pre-defined folder template).
I still do not see a "More" button in the properaties for the
$Recycle.Bin folder under any property sheet (aka tab).  However, again,
I'm on Windows 10 using File Explorer, not on Windows 7 using Windows
Explorer.
Note: Under the $Recycle.Bin folder is a Recycle Bin subfolder.
Right-clicking on that subfolder to see properties shows me the same
ones when I right-click on the desktop shortcut.
When you right-click on the Recycle Bin desktop shortcut and select
Properties from the context menu, how many tabs do you see?  When you
configure Windows Explorer to show hidden files and unhide system files,
what properties sheets do you see when right-clicking on the
$Recycle.Bin folder at the root of a drive?  When go under that folder
and right-click on the Recycle Bin subfolder to see properties, are they
same as when you right-clicked on the desktop Recycle Bin icon?
What I see for properties is what the online images show for the Recycle
Bin, even for Windows 7.  Could you save a screenshot and upload to to
show just where you see a "More" button?

Using Windows 10  here is what I see.
Rene

I screwed up
Using Windows 10  here is what I see.
https://i.postimg.cc/bwPjxD0Q/Recycle.png
That should work
Rene

I should have included the MORE menu, here it is Rene

Loading Image...

Rene

[VanguardLH]

Post by Rene Lamontagne
Using Windows 10 here is what I see.
https://i.postimg.cc/bwPjxD0Q/Recycle.png
That should work

Oh, you're talking about customizing the columns (to add or remove).
The OP didn't mention he [remembers he] customized the header columns.

I've never customized the headers shown under the $Recycle.Bin, because
there's no point in showing anything other than the defaults. I don't
need to see those details for anything stored under that folder. In
fact, unless you find instructions online, you cannot see the files that
got moved under that folder. Trying to view the subfolders where the
delete-moved files got saved results in a permissions error even when
logged on under a Windows account in the Administrators security group.
The user gets immediately stymied when trying to dig under those
subfolders, so just use the special-access Recycle Bin desktop or File
Explorer shortcut to see the "deleted" (moved) files.

[Rene Lamontagne]

Post by VanguardLH

Post by Rene Lamontagne
Using Windows 10 here is what I see.
https://i.postimg.cc/bwPjxD0Q/Recycle.png
That should work

Oh, you're talking about customizing the columns (to add or remove).
The OP didn't mention he [remembers he] customized the header columns.
I've never customized the headers shown under the $Recycle.Bin, because
there's no point in showing anything other than the defaults. I don't
need to see those details for anything stored under that folder. In
fact, unless you find instructions online, you cannot see the files that
got moved under that folder. Trying to view the subfolders where the
delete-moved files got saved results in a permissions error even when
logged on under a Windows account in the Administrators security group.
The user gets immediately stymied when trying to dig under those
subfolders, so just use the special-access Recycle Bin desktop or File
Explorer shortcut to see the "deleted" (moved) files.

To see those menus I have to set view in the ribbon to "details" they
do not show if I am set to small or medium Icons. I have never changed
those.no I don't want to see my delete files either.

Rene

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by VanguardLH

Post by Rene Lamontagne
Using Windows 10 here is what I see.
https://i.postimg.cc/bwPjxD0Q/Recycle.png
That should work

Oh, you're talking about customizing the columns (to add or remove).
The OP didn't mention he [remembers he] customized the header columns.

Why should I change the headers in the recycle bin? This is
Microsoft "fixing" things whether it is broken or not.

Post by VanguardLH
I've never customized the headers shown under the $Recycle.Bin, because
there's no point in showing anything other than the defaults. I don't
need to see those details for anything stored under that folder. In
fact, unless you find instructions online, you cannot see the files that
got moved under that folder. Trying to view the subfolders where the
delete-moved files got saved results in a permissions error even when
logged on under a Windows account in the Administrators security group.
The user gets immediately stymied when trying to dig under those
subfolders, so just use the special-access Recycle Bin desktop or File
Explorer shortcut to see the "deleted" (moved) files.

[VanguardLH]

Why should I change the headers in the recycle bin? This is Microsoft
"fixing" things whether it is broken or not.

Because you're not using the default set of columns (headers). Somehow
it got changed. Other users have gotten several OS updates, and
progressed to later versions of Windows, and their set of columns did
not change. Could be you applied a changed view to all folders. Could
be you used some tweaker tools. Could be you are using some OS
modifier, like ClassicShell, OpenShell, or other GUI modifier. In fact,
it wasn't mentioned when the changed happened, only that you recently
noticed what you didn't expect.

If you change the View options in Windows Explorer, maybe resetting them
back to defaults and applying to all folders will get you the view you
expect. Then go tweak them again, but remember what you did.

We still don't know just what folder is the one you're looking at using
Windows Explorer: \$Recycled.Bin, or some other folder, or a subfolder.
You haven't yet declared what is the type of folder you're looking at:
General Items, Music, or other folder type (under the Customize
properties tab).

From my replies and those of others, doesn't look like the default is
what you see. We didn't do whatever you did either directly or as the
consequence of using some tweaker or other tool. It's possible you did
something you don't remember or didn't understand. However, there is
another possibility ...

If you don't want Windows guessing what should be the type of folder
(General Items, Music, Pictures, Videos, Documents) then disable that
feature.

https://winaero.com/disable-folder-type-discovery-windows-10/
("Automatic folder type discovery was introduced in Windows XP.")

The registry tweak is something I already use in a batch file.
Forensics can determine what file content you had once in a folder by
looking at the folder names, and the ShellBags entries record what
folders you visited, so that tracks what folders you visited (up to the
limit also set in the registry) and what were their names. My batch
deletes all the user and global ShellBags entries to kill that forensic
method. I don't really use it often, but mostly when I do some major
cleanup. Because I'm deleting the entire keys from the registry (which
get recreated upon further folder visits), I cannot use the tweak to
disable the automatic folder type selection by Windows based on a guess
on what filetypes were inside a folder. I've never run into that as a
problem, but then I don't keep my docs, pics, videos, and music on my
internal SDDs or HDDs (they might be there temporarily until I moved
them off to external or cloud storage).

Microsoft's expectation is that you keep your damn fingers out of the
actual folder and use the Recycle Bin folder view presented by that
special dialog. That's why you won't see the \$Recycled.Bin folder or
its subfolders until you decide to dig in there. If the header set
wasn't due to something you did (or something you used which still is
something you did) then perhaps it was because you were digging around
in the special folder using Windows Explorer and Windows employed its
guessing scheme based on what Explorer saw in there.

Doctor it hurts when I do this.
Then don't do that.

You're supposed to "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain";
i.e., don't be using Windows Explorer to view the folder. You're
supposed to use the custom view presented to you for the special folder.

[Paul]

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

Do you know whether desktop.ini files stick around
in those folders ?

The recycle bin folder view is "synthetic", and is the
logical combination of the recycle folders on all partitions.
If there was a Desktop.ini file hanging around, it might call
up a particular shell32.dll view of the folder. The Desktop.ini
is a short text file. You're allowed to open those
with Notepad.

Since it's difficult to use File Explorer to examine all the
folder structure underneath, I'd use "nfi.exe". Say you had
C: , D: , E: NTFS partitions. You'd dump nfi.exe C: > C_out.txt
and do D and E similarly, then look at all the stuff related
to recycle bin. And see if any Desktop.ini files are somewhere
in there. Then, using your crafty command prompt, spell
out exactly which Desktop.ini you want deleted

del C:\$Recycle\blah\blah\Desktop.ini

Then the columns should change when you navigate
down that way the next time.

nfi.exe is in here (13,529,558 bytes). You have to look
around inside the ZIP a bit to find it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20070104083656if_/http://download.microsoft.com:80/download/win2000srv/utility/3.0/nt45/en-us/oem3sr2s.zip

Paul

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Paul

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

Do you know whether desktop.ini files stick around
in those folders ?
The recycle bin folder view is "synthetic", and is the
logical combination of the recycle folders on all partitions.
If there was a Desktop.ini file hanging around, it might call
up a particular shell32.dll view of the folder. The Desktop.ini
is a short text file. You're allowed to open those
with Notepad.
Since it's difficult to use File Explorer to examine all the
folder structure underneath, I'd use "nfi.exe". Say you had
C: , D: , E: NTFS partitions. You'd dump nfi.exe C: > C_out.txt
and do D and E similarly, then look at all the stuff related
to recycle bin. And see if any Desktop.ini files are somewhere
in there. Then, using your crafty command prompt, spell
out exactly which Desktop.ini you want deleted
del C:\$Recycle\blah\blah\Desktop.ini
Then the columns should change when you navigate
down that way the next time.
nfi.exe is in here (13,529,558 bytes). You have to look
around inside the ZIP a bit to find it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070104083656if_/http://download.microsoft.com:80/download/win2000srv/utility/3.0/nt45/en-us/oem3sr2s.zip

Uh, right, I think. Thanks for all the advice.

I'm going to interpret that to mean that Microsoft has once again
been its usually hyperactive Boy Scout self, and proudly fixed
something which didn't need doing, all to "improve my computer
experience." They should eat worms.

[Paul]

Post by pyotr filipivich
I'm going to interpret that to mean that Microsoft has once again
been its usually hyperactive Boy Scout self, and proudly fixed
something which didn't need doing, all to "improve my computer
experience." They should eat worms.

C:\$Recycle.bin has SID (security identifier) folders underneath
D:\$Recycle.bin has SID (security identifier) folders underneath

/etc/updatedb.conf

sudo xed /etc/updatedb.conf # remove /media from scan

(mount all disk icons needing a scan)

sudo updatedb # takes a while if you have a million files

locate '*' | grep -i '$recycle.bin' # list all files, scrape out case-insensitive

Now, I removed most of the entries in here and left a few for coloring.
The desktop.ini files have the capability of "remembering the Music column"
representation, which is why we're interested in cleaning them out.
They're not necessarily all "guilty". Just one of them might have
erroneous info. The long strings of numbers are SIDs, and user 1000
and user 1001 are non-administrator references. 500 is the administrator.
Ones in the neighborhood of 500 might be "wheel-flavor" accounts,
power accounts for various subsystems.

When you treat a Windows disc as a data disk for another Windows OS,
then the number of accounts can grow. As for the rest, like the
"short-looking SIDs", try here.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-server/identity/security-identifiers-in-windows


******* recently created data partition *******

/media/mint/VAULT/$RECYCLE.BIN
/media/mint/VAULT/$RECYCLE.BIN/S-1-5-21-2334889057-1538521736-696511958-1001
/media/mint/VAULT/$RECYCLE.BIN/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000

/media/mint/VAULT/$RECYCLE.BIN/S-1-5-21-2334889057-1538521736-696511958-1001/desktop.ini
/media/mint/VAULT/$RECYCLE.BIN/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000/desktop.ini

******* Windows 10 OS partition *******

/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin
/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-18 <== LocalSystem acct
/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1135891513-58090663-38047098-1001 \__ two different OSes
/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-2195631993-1849129244-3949737396-1000 /

/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-18/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1135891513-58090663-38047098-1001/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN10/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-2195631993-1849129244-3949737396-1000/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN10/Windows/WinSxS/FileMaps/$recycle.bin.cdf-ms <== Noise

******* Windows 7 OS partition *******

/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-18
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1047500965-2950535253-1571800197-1000
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1135891513-58090663-38047098-1001
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-501 <=== hmmm

/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-18/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1047500965-2950535253-1571800197-1000/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-1135891513-58090663-38047098-1001/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000/$IVEZO9U.default <=== trash???
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-1000/desktop.ini
/media/mint/WIN7PRO/$Recycle.Bin/S-1-5-21-3768549767-1934788099-1503758287-501/desktop.ini

The 501 is related to Microsoft\Protect and to FontCache.
The $IVEZO9U might be a deleted Thunderbird/Seamonkey/Firefox profile
and the folder is empty, implying the content disappeared but the
folder couldn't be deleted. No impact on "Music columns" though.

From the Linux side, Recycle.Bin is case sensitive, so you have
to be careful how you scrape the info.

Whereas issuing commands from here, Windows is (mostly) case-insensitive.
Windows does now support case sensitivity, in the sense that it allows
two items to have the same name, as long as the case of the letters is
different.

https://www.get-itsolutions.com/commands-clean-recycle-bin/

rd /s /q d:\$RECYCLE.BIN # EXAMPLE cleaning the D:\ trash

In that example, rd = removedir , s = remove directory trees worth , q = quiet

If a user has run Win98, WinXP, Vista, Win10, MacOS, Linux... then
the partition could collect all sorts of wacky variants on recycle bin
and trash for names. Don't be alarmed by the amount of identifying
forensic info in there :-)

The reason for me doing that from Linux, scrape the names, is
so "I don't miss any". Sorta. The problem on the Windows side,
is the potential for permissions to hide stuff. For example, when
you start flinging that "rd" command around as Administrator,
don't necessarily expect it to do a good job.

And nfi.exe is allowed to list most of the important stuff.
The nfi.exe can still have trouble with System Volume Information
for example. So it's almost as good as my Linux file list, just
short a few items that aren't normally important. For a "space hog"
search, then nfi.exe could miss VSS files in SVI. And you must not
delete those from Linux either. Only use GUI-based interfaces
for cleaning out that pig pen.

So yes, you can do some house-cleaning if you want. Just have
tools handy, so you can verify what got removed. And have a backup
handy, as this is an experiment, right ?

Paul

[Brian Gregory]

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

What version of Windows are you asking about?

I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

[VanguardLH]

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

What version of Windows are you asking about?
I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

Just because Microsoft wants to call a change a new version of Windows
doesn't mean everything got discarded. Lots of features, behaviors, and
registry setting remain the same. The change is incremental, not
catastophic.

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by VanguardLH

Post by Brian Gregory
I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

Just because Microsoft wants to call a change a new version of Windows
doesn't mean everything got discarded. Lots of features, behaviors, and
registry setting remain the same. The change is incremental, not
catastophic.

Some changes may be incremental, but if you miss all the
intermediate steps, it is "catastrophic". Well, not to much
catastrophic as "why do the wipers come on when I put the car in park?
Oh, because this version has the wiper controls there, not the
transmission shifter I'm used to."

And I gave up trying to seriously work with what ever is "under
the hood" or behind the screen, a long time ago.

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

What version of Windows are you asking about?
I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

I'm "accepting them" because I have no idea what they are talking
about be it for Win 7, Win 8, WinX, or Windows 409.

[Brian Gregory]

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich
That's my question: why does the recycle bin take on the notion it
has been configured / customized as a "Music" directory, with headers
for title, album, artist and the like? is full of
I'm not sure I really care, but it is just one more point of
annoyance for my day.

What version of Windows are you asking about?
I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

I'm "accepting them" because I have no idea what they are talking
about be it for Win 7, Win 8, WinX, or Windows 409.

FFS, you still haven't confirmed which version of Windows you're asking
about.

[VanguardLH]

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich

But there are people answering with answers that make no sense at
all for Windows 7 and you seem to be accepting them.

I'm "accepting them" because I have no idea what they are talking
about be it for Win 7, Win 8, WinX, or Windows 409.

FFS, you still haven't confirmed which version of Windows you're asking
about.

You mean 32- versus 64-bit? Presumably the OP is asking about Windows 7
which is the topic of this newsgroup; however, later versions of Windows
will likely see the same behavior or features unless altered by the
user. The question isn't about the changes in the desktop GUI which is
the major differentiation between the Windows versions, but what is seen
inside of Windows/File Explorer when viewing a special folder.

So, based on your reply about some of us responding about behavior on
other later versions of Windows, just what have you seen change between
Windows Explorer (Windows 7,8) to File Explorer (Windows 10)?

These are the changes that I know about:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/what-s-changed-in-file-explorer-ef370130-1cca-9dc5-e0df-2f7416fe1cb1

Note that some of those changes can be undone with tweaking, like what
is the default folder when you open File Explorer. I have mine
configured to land on "This PC" (which used to be called "My Computer"),
not on Quick Access (which I never use). What's the big change you
proclaim would differ Windows Explorer back on Windows 7 to File
Explorer on Windows 10 that would account for variation in the view and
selected columns?

You implied that we who speak from later versions of Windows must not be
on target with their advice, but you give no substantiation as to why
File Explorer would differ from Windows Explorer in the view of special
folders. Readers, especially the OP, would infer there are differences.
What are they?

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Brian Gregory
I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

I'm "accepting them" because I have no idea what they are talking
about be it for Win 7, Win 8, WinX, or Windows 409.

FFS, you still haven't confirmed which version of Windows you're asking
about.

Obviously because I posted in "alt.windows7.general" I must be
asking about Windows 95, or XP. Or Mac OS.

[Paul]

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Brian Gregory
I ask because I would have thought that since you're asking in
alt.windows7.general it would be Windows 7. But there are people
answering with answers that make no sense at all for Windows 7 and you
seem to be accepting them.

I'm "accepting them" because I have no idea what they are talking
about be it for Win 7, Win 8, WinX, or Windows 409.

FFS, you still haven't confirmed which version of Windows you're asking
about.

Obviously because I posted in "alt.windows7.general" I must be
asking about Windows 95, or XP. Or Mac OS.

Have you fixed it yet ?

We like a happy ending.

There's some recipe where you can clear all the
ShellBags and set the sort order to "None", that
like everything in Windows, does not guarantee a
thing. But it's supposed to help tame the automation
a bit, so that throwing music files into a folder,
doesn't cause music columns to appear. You would think
they'd pick an obvious way of signaling such
a thing, like "Disable Automation DWORD 0x01", but
no, it's got to be convoluted and also... not guaranteed
to last forever.

Since my trash folders here "mostly behave", that's
why I'm betting on just cleaning all the Desktop.ini files
from the afflicted area, and that should be enough to
solve the immediate problem. There's really no reason
this is happening, because the Trash bin is virtual
and is already using a transformation to do its thing.
And why would it honor any other Desktop.ini file in
the process ? There's already magic involved in making
the Trash bin work.

Paul

[pyotr filipivich]

Post by Paul

Post by pyotr filipivich

Post by Brian Gregory

Post by pyotr filipivich
I'm "accepting them" because I have no idea what they are talking
about be it for Win 7, Win 8, WinX, or Windows 409.

FFS, you still haven't confirmed which version of Windows you're asking
about.

Obviously because I posted in "alt.windows7.general" I must be
asking about Windows 95, or XP. Or Mac OS.

Have you fixed it yet ?

I've reset the columns, but how/why MS changed them - 'ne znaiyu'.

Post by Paul
We like a happy ending.

Who doesn't. Not that we always get one.