"Bob_S" <***@here.com> wrote
| Wow - quite the rant.
Not a rant. Details. Didn't you ask for details?
When it comes to Symantec I just happen to have
a lot of details, because they ruined a lot of my
| Sounds like you've had a bad time over software
| acquisitions for quite awhile.
That's quite a jump in logic. I don't like Symantec
so I must be a ranting crank who can't seem to have
good luck with software? How did you manage to get
religious about something like Symantec? I expect that
from AppleSeeds. Maybe even some MS Office fans.
But... Symantec? It must be those snazzy yellow and
black suits that make them look like a cross between
James Bond and a sleek bee in a Broadway musical.
I haven't had an especially bad time with software.
In fact, the ones I listed were all mainstays and
I considered them to be the best available -- until
Symantec bought them.
And as I noted, I've been delighted with BootIt
for years now. I just don't like Symantec. And I have
lots of reasons. Did I mention that? :)
| You don't like Symantec - fine. But as you said, you don't know what
| Symantec has these days.
And apparently neither do you. You say people shouldn't
use anything free over a choice like Symantec, which has
"labs", whatever that means. Do you really buy into all this
pseudo-science marketing by these companies? No one needs
a "lab" to investigate computer viruses. They're not the same
thing as disease viruses.
And what's your evidence for the amazingness of Symantec?
Nothing but links to Symantec marketing webpages? All I
asked was that if you're going to tell people what they should
use then you should back that up... as you were asking tesla
to do. A simple link or two to comparative surveys would be
fine. Something that shows Symantec's high-priced spread is
justifiably better than free options.
Since the free options are generally given away as part of
a marketing plan, I don't see any reason to think they're inferior.
If you try Acme Feee at home and don't like it then you're
not likely to buy Acme Paid for your business.
Personally I don't use any AV and haven't for many
years. I often install something basic for friends without
experience who I help. In that case I'm looking for
something free that stays out of the way. Just enough
to notice unusual activity and warn them. I regard the
whole idea as grossly outdated and the software itself
tends to be a resource hog. Not just Symantec's. We're
talking about a program that wants to scan every file
touched, to compare byte patterns to *millions* of
stored patterns from collected malware. (Byte patterns
that need updating several times per day. When the idea
of virus signatures started out they needed updating
once per month.)
And if you touch that file again in 5 minutes it will be
scanned again. The whole approach has become untenable.
AV is also a privacy/security risk in itself. For example, I've
noticed that people who use Trendmicro get followed
online. Someone downloads a ZIP from my website. Within
a minute, my server logs show TM in Japan has downloaded
the same ZIP. Every move is being reported home. Should
we trust *any* company to do that? Well... OK... Facebook
can probably be trusted. :)
The worse AV gets, the more there are also false positives.
I have at least one program I wrote that set off Avira.
Someone wrote to tell me. So I installed Avira. Sure enough.
It even had a made-up, scary sounding name for my "malware".
I'd apparently infested a number of my compilations. I found
that if I compiled it with different options it wouldn't set off
Avira. I sure am glad I didn't *pay* for that kind of genius.
Karl Peterson, a former MS MVP, once wrote an article
about a similar situation. After a lot of searching he figured
out that the AV was set off by the fact that he'd hard-coded
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE" into his executable. Of course, I
could "rant" all day about this. :)
But in my experience those are typical examples. If
everywhere then you're basically a hayseed in a
whorehouse and some thick latex is in order. Otherwise...
| You can download their free trials and see for
| yourself whether it suits you or not. I believe you'll find they dropped a
| lot of stuff and cleaned up their offerings with the new management in the
| past few years.
So you also don't have any facts to back up your
position? No specific features you find notable? No
independent testing to link to? You expect us to
research it simply on your say so?!