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Ping Char Jackson Plex Library
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jetjock
2023-09-19 21:10:45 UTC
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Char,

This conversation is kind of off-topic here. Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you? Libraries are giving me fits!!
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Auric__
2023-09-19 23:35:27 UTC
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Post by jetjock
This conversation is kind of off-topic here. Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you? Libraries are giving me fits!!
IIRC Char is female... but "Charlotte/Charlene/Char* Jackson" can't be
anything remotely resembling unique. Also, there's no guarantee her real name
even remotely resembles "Char Jackson". Just sayin'.
--
Life belongs to those who do not fear to lose it.
jetjock
2023-09-20 02:12:55 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:35:27 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
Post by Auric__
Post by jetjock
This conversation is kind of off-topic here. Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you? Libraries are giving me fits!!
IIRC Char is female... but "Charlotte/Charlene/Char* Jackson" can't be
anything remotely resembling unique. Also, there's no guarantee her real name
even remotely resembles "Char Jackson". Just sayin'.
All true!
Post by Auric__
Post by jetjock
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Char Jackson
2023-09-20 06:51:49 UTC
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Post by jetjock
Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
Post by jetjock
Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you?
I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
Post by jetjock
Libraries are giving me fits!!
Did you follow the steps here?
https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/
jetjock
2023-09-20 15:36:02 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
Post by jetjock
Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you?
I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
Post by jetjock
Libraries are giving me fits!!
Did you follow the steps here?
https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/
Yes, I don't have trouble creating a library, it's managing it
afterwards.

1. How can I create a photo library that doesn't automatically add
every photo on the drive?

2. Once a library is created, I can't find any way to delete
individual photos or albums just from the library, without deleting
the files from the "File System". And that option doesn't even work.
I've tried deleting an album four times now, and it's still there!

Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Char Jackson
2023-09-20 19:07:54 UTC
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Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
Post by jetjock
Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you?
I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
Post by jetjock
Libraries are giving me fits!!
Did you follow the steps here?
https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/
Yes, I don't have trouble creating a library, it's managing it
afterwards.
1. How can I create a photo library that doesn't automatically add
every photo on the drive?
Don't give Plex access to the entire drive. Really, it's as simple as that.

Whether it's photos, movies, TV programs, misc videos, music, etc., the first
step is to create a new (and thus empty) folder on your hard drive. When you
create your new library, point it at the corresponding new folder. I have
separate folders as follows, with each of them linked to its own Plex library:

_Plex Movies
_Plex TV
_Plex Video
_Plex Music

I currently don't have a folder for photos, but you get the idea. I use the
leading underscore to force these folders to float to the top of the File
Explorer display, and I include the word Plex in each folder name to make it
obvious what they belong to.

With the folders created and the Plex libraries each pointed to its respective
folder, the next thing to do is to drop some files into the correct folder.
Before you get in too deep, decide if the files in those folders will be *moved*
there or *copied* there. For me, the three video folders get their files moved
there, so that I can (optionally) delete them after I've seen them. I don't want
to delete any music after I've heard it, so I maintain a music hierarchy outside
of the Plex library and I drop a copy of just some of my music into the Plex
music folder. I may get rid of the whole Plex music library, though, since I
very rarely seem to use it.
Post by jetjock
2. Once a library is created, I can't find any way to delete
individual photos or albums just from the library, without deleting
the files from the "File System".
That's correct. If you use the Plex interface to delete something, it will be
deleted from the file system and placed into the Recycle Bin. If you just want
to remove something from a Plex library, without deleting it from the file
system, then you'd use File Explorer or similar tool to do so. The next time
Plex runs its sync script, it'll see that one or more files have been removed
and it will clean up its user interface. That scan runs automatically, about
once per hour, but you can run it manually at any time.
Post by jetjock
And that option doesn't even work.
I've tried deleting an album four times now, and it's still there!
I'd need more details before I could offer any useful advice. Deleting items via
the Plex user interface works fine here.
Post by jetjock
Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
jetjock
2023-09-21 16:17:06 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to. You're using Plex on Windows 7, right?
Post by jetjock
Is there a way to
contact you about Plex? I found a female Char Jackson on Facebook. Is
that you?
I'm not on FB, so I'm thinking it's not me.
Post by jetjock
Libraries are giving me fits!!
Did you follow the steps here?
https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288926-creating-libraries/
Yes, I don't have trouble creating a library, it's managing it
afterwards.
1. How can I create a photo library that doesn't automatically add
every photo on the drive?
Don't give Plex access to the entire drive. Really, it's as simple as that.
Whether it's photos, movies, TV programs, misc videos, music, etc., the first
step is to create a new (and thus empty) folder on your hard drive. When you
create your new library, point it at the corresponding new folder. I have
_Plex Movies
_Plex TV
_Plex Video
_Plex Music
I currently don't have a folder for photos, but you get the idea. I use the
leading underscore to force these folders to float to the top of the File
Explorer display, and I include the word Plex in each folder name to make it
obvious what they belong to.
I built my folders the same way. They do show at the top in my file
manager, but Plex puts them at the bottom! :-)
Post by Char Jackson
With the folders created and the Plex libraries each pointed to its respective
folder, the next thing to do is to drop some files into the correct folder.
Before you get in too deep, decide if the files in those folders will be *moved*
there or *copied* there. For me, the three video folders get their files moved
there, so that I can (optionally) delete them after I've seen them. I don't want
to delete any music after I've heard it, so I maintain a music hierarchy outside
of the Plex library and I drop a copy of just some of my music into the Plex
music folder. I may get rid of the whole Plex music library, though, since I
very rarely seem to use it.
Post by jetjock
2. Once a library is created, I can't find any way to delete
individual photos or albums just from the library, without deleting
the files from the "File System".
That's correct. If you use the Plex interface to delete something, it will be
deleted from the file system and placed into the Recycle Bin. If you just want
to remove something from a Plex library, without deleting it from the file
system, then you'd use File Explorer or similar tool to do so. The next time
Plex runs its sync script, it'll see that one or more files have been removed
and it will clean up its user interface. That scan runs automatically, about
once per hour, but you can run it manually at any time.
Thanks. At least now I know how to remove something from the library.
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
And that option doesn't even work.
I've tried deleting an album four times now, and it's still there!
I'd need more details before I could offer any useful advice. Deleting items via
the Plex user interface works fine here.
Just deleted the whole library and started over. Not a problem
anymore! :-)

You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
to ask though, right?
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
again!
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
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Char Jackson
2023-09-21 17:23:22 UTC
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Post by jetjock
You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
to ask though, right?
I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
that it wouldn't be in there.
Post by jetjock
Post by jetjock
Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
again!
You're welcome. Enjoy!
jetjock
2023-09-21 20:12:54 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
to ask though, right?
I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
that it wouldn't be in there.
I also checked several places but about all I learned was that Plex
provides virtually no support for their program! :-( Their forums are
a joke and when I searched their support, there were more unanswered
questions than answered ones.
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Post by jetjock
Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
again!
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
Post by Char Jackson
You're welcome. Enjoy!
Post by jetjock
Post by jetjock
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J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-21 22:31:23 UTC
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In message <***@4ax.com> at Thu, 21 Sep
2023 15:12:54, jetjock <***@unkown.com> writes
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Post by jetjock
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
Post by jetjock
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
You're welcome. Enjoy!
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
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jetjock
2023-09-22 14:38:13 UTC
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On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by jetjock
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
are converted to mp4.
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
does. I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
up-down speed was what it was referencing. But, since I've never had
to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
You're welcome. Enjoy!
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Char Jackson
2023-09-22 16:22:29 UTC
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Post by jetjock
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by jetjock
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
are converted to mp4.
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
does.
To put a little more detail into that, when you try to stream from the Plex
server to the Fire Stick, there are two WiFi streams involved. The first is
between the Plex server and the WiFi access point, and the second is between the
Fire Stick and the access point. If either one of them is weak, you'll have
problems. If both are weak, you may not be able to make it work satisfactorily
at all. Both of those connections will very likely be using the same WiFi
channel, so you'd also be dealing with that kind of contention and interference,
not to mention the shared aspect of community WiFi and the uncertainties of what
your neighbors are doing at any moment on the same WiFi channel.

I'd want to eliminate all of that uncertainty by bringing the network into your
living space. Create a LAN where you live, so that the things you want to do are
only on your LAN, and give the LAN an Internet connection. That's what I would
most likely do, but I'm not prepared to walk you through all of the details and
any ongoing support, so you'll want to keep things simple.
Post by jetjock
I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
up-down speed was what it was referencing.
No, it's talking about the two WiFi links that make up the connection from Plex
to Fire Stick.
Post by jetjock
But, since I've never had
to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
What equipment is available to you, if anything? What is inside your house,
apartment, condo, whatever? You said the router isn't there, but perhaps you
have an access point? Better yet, maybe you have an access point with an
available Ethernet port?

Switching gears, this is a bit drastic, but I'd check to see if a computer could
be placed near(er) to the TV, then use a wired Ethernet connection* or an ad hoc
WiFi connection. WiFi, in that case, wouldn't have to travel all the way back to
the community access point and make a round trip back to your Fire Stick.
Instead, it would only travel between the computer and the Fire Stick. The
downside would be that the Fire Stick would lose its Internet connection. There
are ways around that, but by then things get more complex and money could be
involved.

*If a wired Ethernet connection is a possibility, it would likely require
replacing the Fire Stick with a Roku. You may not want to entertain that
expense.
jetjock
2023-09-23 18:28:28 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by jetjock
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
are converted to mp4.
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
does.
To put a little more detail into that, when you try to stream from the Plex
server to the Fire Stick, there are two WiFi streams involved. The first is
between the Plex server and the WiFi access point, and the second is between the
Fire Stick and the access point. If either one of them is weak, you'll have
problems. If both are weak, you may not be able to make it work satisfactorily
at all. Both of those connections will very likely be using the same WiFi
channel, so you'd also be dealing with that kind of contention and interference,
not to mention the shared aspect of community WiFi and the uncertainties of what
your neighbors are doing at any moment on the same WiFi channel.
I'd want to eliminate all of that uncertainty by bringing the network into your
living space. Create a LAN where you live, so that the things you want to do are
only on your LAN, and give the LAN an Internet connection. That's what I would
most likely do, but I'm not prepared to walk you through all of the details and
any ongoing support, so you'll want to keep things simple.
I do have a LAN with a strong (apparently-full 5 bars in start tray)
signal. Understand that you are not in the IT business! :-) You've
already given me a whole lot of help.

I think I confused the issue by referring to my setup as "community
WiFi". Since we don't have an IT person for our community I am not
able to get comprehensive knowledge from anyone, but here is our
system as I understand it.

Somewhere on the property is a transmitter that provides WiFi signals.
There are two distinct versions, depending on whether you live in an
apartment in the main building, all of whom share a signal with a
common password, or a cottage as I do. Each cottage has a distinct
password. In my cottage there is a modem and an Rukus access point
which is mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the cottage. Since we
have 10 ft. ceilings (and I don't have an ladder since we moved), I
can't reach it to get a model, serial # or IP address off it. I have
tried every address I can think of (see reply to J.P. Gilliver), but I
can't get into it. My WiFi analyzer shows hidden networks, so maybe
they have blocked access to keep fools like me out! :-)
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
up-down speed was what it was referencing.
No, it's talking about the two WiFi links that make up the connection from Plex
to Fire Stick.
Post by jetjock
But, since I've never had
to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
What equipment is available to you, if anything? What is inside your house,
apartment, condo, whatever? You said the router isn't there, but perhaps you
have an access point? Better yet, maybe you have an access point with an
available Ethernet port?
See above.
Post by Char Jackson
Switching gears, this is a bit drastic, but I'd check to see if a computer could
be placed near(er) to the TV, then use a wired Ethernet connection* or an ad hoc
WiFi connection. WiFi, in that case, wouldn't have to travel all the way back to
the community access point and make a round trip back to your Fire Stick.
Instead, it would only travel between the computer and the Fire Stick. The
downside would be that the Fire Stick would lose its Internet connection. There
are ways around that, but by then things get more complex and money could be
involved.
*If a wired Ethernet connection is a possibility, it would likely require
replacing the Fire Stick with a Roku. You may not want to entertain that
expense.
I just redid my libraries to reduce some clutter, and also "Optimized
for TV" all my TV shows. I saw where some were optimized for mobile
and some were not yet optimized. surprised they played at all. Doesn't
address the problem of playing my phone videos, but one thing at a
time. I'll see tonight how the TV shows work.
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Char Jackson
2023-09-24 00:31:39 UTC
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Post by jetjock
I think I confused the issue by referring to my setup as "community
WiFi". Since we don't have an IT person for our community I am not
able to get comprehensive knowledge from anyone, but here is our
system as I understand it.
Somewhere on the property is a transmitter that provides WiFi signals.
There are two distinct versions, depending on whether you live in an
apartment in the main building, all of whom share a signal with a
common password, or a cottage as I do. Each cottage has a distinct
password. In my cottage there is a modem and an Rukus access point
Possibly one of the models on this page:
https://www.ruckusnetworks.com/products/wireless-access-points/
Post by jetjock
which is mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the cottage. Since we
have 10 ft. ceilings (and I don't have an ladder since we moved), I
can't reach it to get a model, serial # or IP address off it. I have
tried every address I can think of (see reply to J.P. Gilliver), but I
can't get into it. My WiFi analyzer shows hidden networks, so maybe
they have blocked access to keep fools like me out! :-)
No, but it's a nice thought. :)

When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a connected
PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't connected to a network
at that time, so no useful info was obtained.) In the ipconfig output, you
should see your own IP address, plus the IP address of the DHCP server and the
Default Gateway. (Plus DNS address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)

All 3 of those addresses will be on the same subnet, with the latter two most
likely being the same address. They don't have to be the same, but they usually
are. The gateway address should be the router that serves your cottage, and
possibly other cottages. The ceiling-mounted access point very likely has an IP
address that's also in that same subnet. Obviously, you don't need to know it in
order to use the access point (because you use an access point at layer 2 of the
OSI model and IP addresses live above that at layer 3, but who cares, right?)

Because I'm weird that way, when I'm connected to that WiFi system I'd run a
utility called an IP scanner. When it finishes, it provides a list of every IP
address that it found on your subnet, plus some basic info about each of those
IP addresses. The access point will probably show up in that list, as will the
router.

I haven't said anything about the modem because, technically, the modem is not
on your LAN. It's almost certainly on the WAN side of the router that serves
your cottage, even if it's in the same plastic case as the router. You still
might be able to access it, though, just for the sake of info. If it was a
standard cable modem, it would likely be at http://168.192.100.1 but I'm
guessing it's not a standard cable modem. If you can get the make/model, you
might find a default address for it. It won't be an address that's on your LAN
subnet, since it's on the far side of the router.
Post by jetjock
I just redid my libraries to reduce some clutter, and also "Optimized
for TV" all my TV shows. I saw where some were optimized for mobile
and some were not yet optimized. surprised they played at all. Doesn't
address the problem of playing my phone videos, but one thing at a
time. I'll see tonight how the TV shows work.
I've never optimized anything. Maybe I should, but everything plays just fine.
Frank Slootweg
2023-09-24 09:14:03 UTC
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Char Jackson <***@none.invalid> wrote:
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Post by Char Jackson
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a
connected PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't
connected to a network at that time, so no useful info was obtained.)
In the ipconfig output, you should see your own IP address, plus the
IP address of the DHCP server and the Default Gateway. (Plus DNS
address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
Thanks for clearing that up! I was quite puzzled that jetjock's
"ipconfig /all" output didn't show that information. Now I know (because
he wasn't connected to a network.

Thanks again.

[...]
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-24 11:48:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Slootweg
[...]
Post by Char Jackson
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a
connected PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't
connected to a network at that time, so no useful info was obtained.)
In the ipconfig output, you should see your own IP address, plus the
IP address of the DHCP server and the Default Gateway. (Plus DNS
address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
Thanks for clearing that up! I was quite puzzled that jetjock's
"ipconfig /all" output didn't show that information. Now I know (because
he wasn't connected to a network.
Thanks again.
[...]
ipconfig /all | more
might of course help.

I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Bother," said Pooh, as he fell off the bridge with his stick.
Frank Slootweg
2023-09-24 12:57:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Frank Slootweg
[...]
Post by Char Jackson
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a
connected PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't
connected to a network at that time, so no useful info was obtained.)
In the ipconfig output, you should see your own IP address, plus the
IP address of the DHCP server and the Default Gateway. (Plus DNS
address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
Thanks for clearing that up! I was quite puzzled that jetjock's
"ipconfig /all" output didn't show that information. Now I know (because
he wasn't connected to a network.
Thanks again.
[...]
ipconfig /all | more
might of course help.
Just in case this was meant for me: I was/am quite aware of what to
look for, but I was puzzled as to why the information wasn't in
jetjock's "ipconfig /all" output.
Post by J. P. Gilliver
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
'findstr' is more or less the 'DOS' equivalent of 'grep'. Just do
'findstr /?' to get help.

Example:

C:\home\franks>ipconfig /all | findstr 192
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1

C:\home\franks>
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-24 18:23:08 UTC
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In message <***@ID-201911.user.individual.net> at Sun, 24 Sep
2023 12:57:54, Frank Slootweg <***@ddress.is.invalid> writes
[]
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by J. P. Gilliver
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
'findstr' is more or less the 'DOS' equivalent of 'grep'. Just do
'findstr /?' to get help.
C:\home\franks>ipconfig /all | findstr 192
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
C:\home\franks>
Thanks for that information; findstr seems to work for me (gives the
same result, other than the end dot are 184, 254, 254, 254 [the last
being an extra line that starts "DNS Servers"]). Now, just to try to
remember the name "findstr"! (Maybe I can make a "grep.bat" containing
something like "findstr %0". [I did think of just renaming findstr, but
thought that's probably not a good idea.])
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

You'll need to have this fish in your ear. (First series, fit the first.)
Char Jackson
2023-09-25 03:52:42 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by J. P. Gilliver
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
'findstr' is more or less the 'DOS' equivalent of 'grep'. Just do
'findstr /?' to get help.
C:\home\franks>ipconfig /all | findstr 192
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
C:\home\franks>
Thanks for that information; findstr seems to work for me (gives the
same result, other than the end dot are 184, 254, 254, 254 [the last
being an extra line that starts "DNS Servers"]). Now, just to try to
remember the name "findstr"! (Maybe I can make a "grep.bat" containing
something like "findstr %0". [I did think of just renaming findstr, but
thought that's probably not a good idea.])
Keep an eye on the find command, as well. It seems to be a simplified
alternative to findstr. I use find when I just need a quick and simple search.
It saves me typing 3 keystrokes.
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-25 10:40:08 UTC
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In message <***@4ax.com> at Sun, 24 Sep
2023 22:52:42, Char Jackson <***@none.invalid> writes
[]
Post by Char Jackson
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Thanks for that information; findstr seems to work for me (gives the
same result, other than the end dot are 184, 254, 254, 254 [the last
being an extra line that starts "DNS Servers"]). Now, just to try to
remember the name "findstr"! (Maybe I can make a "grep.bat" containing
something like "findstr %0". [I did think of just renaming findstr, but
thought that's probably not a good idea.])
Keep an eye on the find command, as well. It seems to be a simplified
alternative to findstr. I use find when I just need a quick and simple search.
It saves me typing 3 keystrokes.
Thanks; another command noted!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.
Frank Slootweg
2023-09-25 12:36:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Char Jackson
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by J. P. Gilliver
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
'findstr' is more or less the 'DOS' equivalent of 'grep'. Just do
'findstr /?' to get help.
C:\home\franks>ipconfig /all | findstr 192
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.14(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.178.1
C:\home\franks>
Thanks for that information; findstr seems to work for me (gives the
same result, other than the end dot are 184, 254, 254, 254 [the last
being an extra line that starts "DNS Servers"]). Now, just to try to
remember the name "findstr"! (Maybe I can make a "grep.bat" containing
something like "findstr %0". [I did think of just renaming findstr, but
thought that's probably not a good idea.])
Keep an eye on the find command, as well. It seems to be a simplified
alternative to findstr. I use find when I just need a quick and simple search.
It saves me typing 3 keystrokes.
Yes, I seemed to remember the 'DOS' 'find' command, but as for me the
Unix 'find' command appears earlier in my PATH, 'find /?' didn't work,
so I pointed to the 'DOS' 'findstr' comman instead.

Just now, I used 'C:\Windows\System32\find /?' and see - as you noted
- that the 'DOS' 'find' command can indeed be used for simple grep-like
searches.

Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Char Jackson
2023-09-24 17:13:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Frank Slootweg
[...]
Post by Char Jackson
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a
connected PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't
connected to a network at that time, so no useful info was obtained.)
In the ipconfig output, you should see your own IP address, plus the
IP address of the DHCP server and the Default Gateway. (Plus DNS
address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
Thanks for clearing that up! I was quite puzzled that jetjock's
"ipconfig /all" output didn't show that information. Now I know (because
he wasn't connected to a network.
Thanks again.
[...]
ipconfig /all | more
might of course help.
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
In addition to what Frank said, I wouldn't filter the output this way because
there's no guarantee that the relevant IP addresses include "192." in them.
Instead, I might filter on "IPv4", but even that isn't 100%. Probably best to
not filter at all during the initial discovery phase.
Paul
2023-09-24 18:04:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Frank Slootweg
[...]
Post by Char Jackson
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a
connected PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't
connected to a network at that time, so no useful info was obtained.)
In the ipconfig output, you should see your own IP address, plus the
IP address of the DHCP server and the Default Gateway. (Plus DNS
address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
Thanks for clearing that up! I was quite puzzled that jetjock's
"ipconfig /all" output didn't show that information. Now I know (because
he wasn't connected to a network.
Thanks again.
[...]
ipconfig /all | more
might of course help.
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
GNUWin32 packages can give you a "grep".

You can add a GNUWin32 path element to the OS %path% , to pick them up.

It requires using the installers provided on the download page,
to integrate everything nicely.

https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages.html

https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/grep.htm

Doing stuff like this, is mostly for people with time on
their hands. (This is stuff an old Unix fart would pick up
like flypaper -- other generations, not so much.)

*******

For everything else, you can try pages like this.
I can't find the good page I used to have for this.

https://www.computerhope.com/msdos.htm

The value of items like that, is when they include examples.

https://www.computerhope.com/findstr.htm

Paul
jetjock
2023-09-24 18:56:49 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:48:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Frank Slootweg
[...]
Post by Char Jackson
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a
connected PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't
connected to a network at that time, so no useful info was obtained.)
In the ipconfig output, you should see your own IP address, plus the
IP address of the DHCP server and the Default Gateway. (Plus DNS
address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
Thanks for clearing that up! I was quite puzzled that jetjock's
"ipconfig /all" output didn't show that information. Now I know (because
he wasn't connected to a network.
Thanks again.
[...]
ipconfig /all | more
might of course help.
I was going to say
ipconfig /all | grep 192.
might help, but I've just discovered grep isn't part of the basic W7-32
system )-:! Is its function there under a different name? If not, is it
downloadable from somewhere, that could safely be put in sys32 or
whatever?
Ok. I tried ipconfig /all | more and this time I got this:(edited)


Windows IP Configuration


Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC
7265
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 5C-E4-2A-16-03-A0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::4d13:d630:dca5:b4d3%15(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.34(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 19, 2023
10:38:57 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 25, 2023
8:51:38 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.2
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 475849770
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-22-BE-CD-9F-10-C3-7B-6B-9A-E1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

So I tried IPv4 address and both the default gateway and DHCP Server.
Still would not connect. The first address said there was an error
connecting. The later two both timed out.
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Char Jackson
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Char Jackson
2023-09-25 05:04:36 UTC
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Post by jetjock
Ok. I tried ipconfig /all | more and this time I got this:(edited)
Windows IP Configuration
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC
7265
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 5C-E4-2A-16-03-A0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
fe80::4d13:d630:dca5:b4d3%15(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.34(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 19, 2023
10:38:57 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 25, 2023
8:51:38 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.2
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 475849770
00-01-00-01-22-BE-CD-9F-10-C3-7B-6B-9A-E1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
So we see that your current IP address is 172.17.46.34/24 and that your default
gateway is at 172.17.46.1.

I would expect a web server to be running on port 80 at the gateway address, but
the folks running things could have disabled it.
Post by jetjock
So I tried IPv4 address and both the default gateway and DHCP Server.
Still would not connect. The first address said there was an error
connecting. The later two both timed out.
46.34 is your own address, so no need to try to connect there, and 46.2 is the
DHCP server, so no need to try to connect there, as well. That just leaves the
gateway address, 46.1, which your community admins might have disabled, as I
mentioned above.

I don't think any of this is helping you, is it? :)
jetjock
2023-09-25 15:47:29 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Ok. I tried ipconfig /all | more and this time I got this:(edited)
Windows IP Configuration
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC
7265
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 5C-E4-2A-16-03-A0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
fe80::4d13:d630:dca5:b4d3%15(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.34(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 19, 2023
10:38:57 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 25, 2023
8:51:38 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.2
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 475849770
00-01-00-01-22-BE-CD-9F-10-C3-7B-6B-9A-E1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
So we see that your current IP address is 172.17.46.34/24 and that your default
gateway is at 172.17.46.1.
I would expect a web server to be running on port 80 at the gateway address, but
the folks running things could have disabled it.
Post by jetjock
So I tried IPv4 address and both the default gateway and DHCP Server.
Still would not connect. The first address said there was an error
connecting. The later two both timed out.
46.34 is your own address, so no need to try to connect there, and 46.2 is the
DHCP server, so no need to try to connect there, as well. That just leaves the
gateway address, 46.1, which your community admins might have disabled, as I
mentioned above.
I don't think any of this is helping you, is it? :)
Yes and no! :-) I'm not sure how ipconfig found the 172 address, but
something Paul said about GRC triggered an old memory of "Shields Up".
I ran a scan with that and discovered that my IP was actually
 208.185.183.xxx. I tried putting that in the browser, but it timed
out also. The good news is that my modem (Nokia, by the way) was in
"Stealth" mode at all ports! :-)

I think we've beat this poor ol' horse to death. Time to give it a
dignified burial.
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Char Jackson
2023-09-25 19:02:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Ok. I tried ipconfig /all | more and this time I got this:(edited)
Windows IP Configuration
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC
7265
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 5C-E4-2A-16-03-A0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
fe80::4d13:d630:dca5:b4d3%15(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.34(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, September 19, 2023
10:38:57 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, September 25, 2023
8:51:38 AM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.17.46.2
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 475849770
00-01-00-01-22-BE-CD-9F-10-C3-7B-6B-9A-E1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
So we see that your current IP address is 172.17.46.34/24 and that your default
gateway is at 172.17.46.1.
I would expect a web server to be running on port 80 at the gateway address, but
the folks running things could have disabled it.
Post by jetjock
So I tried IPv4 address and both the default gateway and DHCP Server.
Still would not connect. The first address said there was an error
connecting. The later two both timed out.
46.34 is your own address, so no need to try to connect there, and 46.2 is the
DHCP server, so no need to try to connect there, as well. That just leaves the
gateway address, 46.1, which your community admins might have disabled, as I
mentioned above.
I don't think any of this is helping you, is it? :)
Yes and no! :-) I'm not sure how ipconfig found the 172 address, but
The ipconfig command simply gathers a list of your physical and virtual network
adapters, then it prints the current status of each of them.
Post by jetjock
something Paul said about GRC triggered an old memory of "Shields Up".
I ran a scan with that and discovered that my IP was actually
 208.185.183.xxx.
That's your WAN IP, the IP address that everything outside of your LAN sees you
as. This discussion is supposed to be about your LAN, so your WAN IP isn't
relevant or important.
Post by jetjock
I tried putting that in the browser, but it timed out also.
I hope so.
Post by jetjock
The good news is that my modem (Nokia, by the way) was in
"Stealth" mode at all ports! :-)
Did you happen to see a model number?
Post by jetjock
I think we've beat this poor ol' horse to death. Time to give it a
dignified burial.
How is Plex doing these days?
jetjock
2023-09-24 19:12:25 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
I think I confused the issue by referring to my setup as "community
WiFi". Since we don't have an IT person for our community I am not
able to get comprehensive knowledge from anyone, but here is our
system as I understand it.
Somewhere on the property is a transmitter that provides WiFi signals.
There are two distinct versions, depending on whether you live in an
apartment in the main building, all of whom share a signal with a
common password, or a cottage as I do. Each cottage has a distinct
password. In my cottage there is a modem and an Rukus access point
https://www.ruckusnetworks.com/products/wireless-access-points/
I had already checked there. My box appears to be a 300 or 350. I
tried calling support but they would not help me without a serial
number which I can't get to. :-(
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
which is mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the cottage. Since we
have 10 ft. ceilings (and I don't have an ladder since we moved), I
can't reach it to get a model, serial # or IP address off it. I have
tried every address I can think of (see reply to J.P. Gilliver), but I
can't get into it. My WiFi analyzer shows hidden networks, so maybe
they have blocked access to keep fools like me out! :-)
No, but it's a nice thought. :)
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a connected
PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't connected to a network
at that time, so no useful info was obtained.) In the ipconfig output, you
should see your own IP address, plus the IP address of the DHCP server and the
Default Gateway. (Plus DNS address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
I'm a little confused here. I assumed that my computer is always
connected to the "Network". It says I am connected to the "Wireless
Connection" with "Internet access". Anyway, I tried J.P. Gilliver's
suggestion and ran ipconfig / all | more. See my reply to him for what
happened.
Post by Char Jackson
All 3 of those addresses will be on the same subnet, with the latter two most
likely being the same address. They don't have to be the same, but they usually
are. The gateway address should be the router that serves your cottage, and
possibly other cottages. The ceiling-mounted access point very likely has an IP
address that's also in that same subnet. Obviously, you don't need to know it in
order to use the access point (because you use an access point at layer 2 of the
OSI model and IP addresses live above that at layer 3, but who cares, right?)
Because I'm weird that way, when I'm connected to that WiFi system I'd run a
utility called an IP scanner. When it finishes, it provides a list of every IP
address that it found on your subnet, plus some basic info about each of those
IP addresses. The access point will probably show up in that list, as will the
router.
I haven't said anything about the modem because, technically, the modem is not
on your LAN. It's almost certainly on the WAN side of the router that serves
your cottage, even if it's in the same plastic case as the router. You still
might be able to access it, though, just for the sake of info. If it was a
standard cable modem, it would likely be at http://168.192.100.1
Connection timed out
Post by Char Jackson
but I'm
guessing it's not a standard cable modem. If you can get the make/model, you
might find a default address for it. It won't be an address that's on your LAN
subnet, since it's on the far side of the router.
Post by jetjock
I just redid my libraries to reduce some clutter, and also "Optimized
for TV" all my TV shows. I saw where some were optimized for mobile
and some were not yet optimized. surprised they played at all. Doesn't
address the problem of playing my phone videos, but one thing at a
time. I'll see tonight how the TV shows work.
I've never optimized anything. Maybe I should, but everything plays just fine.
Optimization is now driving me crazy! I put season two of a show into
the _Plex TV folder and optimize it. I get a new folder named
"Optimized for TV". Great. Now I add season 3 to the _Plex TV folder
and optimize it. When I look in the "Optimized for TV" folder, season
3 is there but season 2 is now gone! AARRGGG!!

Only problem with not optimizing is Plex tries to transcode on the fly
while watching, and is mostly unsuccessful doing so.
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
Char Jackson
2023-09-25 04:51:41 UTC
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Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
I think I confused the issue by referring to my setup as "community
WiFi". Since we don't have an IT person for our community I am not
able to get comprehensive knowledge from anyone, but here is our
system as I understand it.
Somewhere on the property is a transmitter that provides WiFi signals.
There are two distinct versions, depending on whether you live in an
apartment in the main building, all of whom share a signal with a
common password, or a cottage as I do. Each cottage has a distinct
password. In my cottage there is a modem and an Rukus access point
https://www.ruckusnetworks.com/products/wireless-access-points/
I had already checked there. My box appears to be a 300 or 350. I
tried calling support but they would not help me without a serial
number which I can't get to. :-(
There probably isn't much you can or should do within the access point, so I'd
probably forget it and move on. If you're determined and curious, an IP scanner
should show you its IP address, and I'd expect it to have a web server running
on port 80.

Now that you know your IP address subnet, to scan for live IP's you'd scan the
range 172.17.46.0/24, or your scanner might expect a starting and ending
address, so you'd use 172.17.46.1 to 172.17.46.254.
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
which is mounted on the ceiling in the middle of the cottage. Since we
have 10 ft. ceilings (and I don't have an ladder since we moved), I
can't reach it to get a model, serial # or IP address off it. I have
tried every address I can think of (see reply to J.P. Gilliver), but I
can't get into it. My WiFi analyzer shows hidden networks, so maybe
they have blocked access to keep fools like me out! :-)
No, but it's a nice thought. :)
When you're connected to the access point, run "ipconfig /all" on a connected
PC. (I know you ran that command before, but you weren't connected to a network
at that time, so no useful info was obtained.) In the ipconfig output, you
should see your own IP address, plus the IP address of the DHCP server and the
Default Gateway. (Plus DNS address(es) but we don't care about DNS right now.)
I'm a little confused here. I assumed that my computer is always
connected to the "Network". It says I am connected to the "Wireless
Connection" with "Internet access". Anyway, I tried J.P. Gilliver's
suggestion and ran ipconfig / all | more. See my reply to him for what
happened.
It may have been connected, but the output that you provided didn't include an
entry for the "Wireless Connection" connectoid. Maybe it was just a copy/paste
issue but we got to see everything on the second attempt.
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
I just redid my libraries to reduce some clutter, and also "Optimized
for TV" all my TV shows. I saw where some were optimized for mobile
and some were not yet optimized. surprised they played at all. Doesn't
address the problem of playing my phone videos, but one thing at a
time. I'll see tonight how the TV shows work.
I've never optimized anything. Maybe I should, but everything plays just fine.
Optimization is now driving me crazy! I put season two of a show into
the _Plex TV folder and optimize it. I get a new folder named
"Optimized for TV". Great. Now I add season 3 to the _Plex TV folder
and optimize it. When I look in the "Optimized for TV" folder, season
3 is there but season 2 is now gone! AARRGGG!!
Are the optimized versions supposed to replace the unoptimized versions, or
should both versions remain available? I don't know what 'normal' is.
Post by jetjock
Only problem with not optimizing is Plex tries to transcode on the fly
while watching, and is mostly unsuccessful doing so.
What does it mean to be unsuccessful? Is the Plex server not up to the task of
doing realtime transcoding, or is it something else?

I'm sorry, but I can't offer any solid advice since it's something I've never
had to do.
Paul
2023-09-25 13:00:34 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
If you're determined and curious, an IP scanner
should show you its IP address, and I'd expect it to have a web server running
on port 80.
Devices don't have to respond to an IP scan.

You should not become distraught if such a scan
offers no response :-)

"White boxes" are mystery meat. Expect mysteries.

Some devices have anti-hammer protection. The GRC
scanner at one time, did not work properly against
my device (gave it a "stealth rating"), because
I found a couple log entries indicating
"some anti-hammer thing detected". Today that
is likely fixed, on the GRC end. At the time, it
was scanning port numbers sequentially. My device wasn't
actually stealthy. There was something needing a fix.
My device stopped responding for a period of time,
as the scan was running, which invalidates the test results.

Paul
Char Jackson
2023-09-25 19:05:09 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Char Jackson
If you're determined and curious, an IP scanner
should show you its IP address, and I'd expect it to have a web server running
on port 80.
Devices don't have to respond to an IP scan.
True, but almost all do.
Post by Paul
You should not become distraught if such a scan
offers no response :-)
"White boxes" are mystery meat. Expect mysteries.
Some devices have anti-hammer protection. The GRC
scanner at one time, did not work properly against
my device (gave it a "stealth rating"), because
I found a couple log entries indicating
"some anti-hammer thing detected". Today that
is likely fixed, on the GRC end. At the time, it
was scanning port numbers sequentially. My device wasn't
actually stealthy. There was something needing a fix.
My device stopped responding for a period of time,
as the scan was running, which invalidates the test results.
That's a port scan, versus the IP scan that I was talking about. Two very
different things.
Paul
2023-09-25 19:14:23 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by Paul
Post by Char Jackson
If you're determined and curious, an IP scanner
should show you its IP address, and I'd expect it to have a web server running
on port 80.
Devices don't have to respond to an IP scan.
True, but almost all do.
Post by Paul
You should not become distraught if such a scan
offers no response :-)
"White boxes" are mystery meat. Expect mysteries.
Some devices have anti-hammer protection. The GRC
scanner at one time, did not work properly against
my device (gave it a "stealth rating"), because
I found a couple log entries indicating
"some anti-hammer thing detected". Today that
is likely fixed, on the GRC end. At the time, it
was scanning port numbers sequentially. My device wasn't
actually stealthy. There was something needing a fix.
My device stopped responding for a period of time,
as the scan was running, which invalidates the test results.
That's a port scan, versus the IP scan that I was talking about. Two very
different things.
The point of that paragraph, is to indicate the mystery meat
nature of these things.

Even the simplest of things, doesn't work out and is a
learning experience.

There can be a number of issues created, by parts or all of this
being switched off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol

Paul
Char Jackson
2023-09-26 03:06:32 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Char Jackson
Post by Paul
Post by Char Jackson
If you're determined and curious, an IP scanner
should show you its IP address, and I'd expect it to have a web server running
on port 80.
Devices don't have to respond to an IP scan.
True, but almost all do.
Post by Paul
You should not become distraught if such a scan
offers no response :-)
"White boxes" are mystery meat. Expect mysteries.
Some devices have anti-hammer protection. The GRC
scanner at one time, did not work properly against
my device (gave it a "stealth rating"), because
I found a couple log entries indicating
"some anti-hammer thing detected". Today that
is likely fixed, on the GRC end. At the time, it
was scanning port numbers sequentially. My device wasn't
actually stealthy. There was something needing a fix.
My device stopped responding for a period of time,
as the scan was running, which invalidates the test results.
That's a port scan, versus the IP scan that I was talking about. Two very
different things.
The point of that paragraph, is to indicate the mystery meat
nature of these things.
Even the simplest of things, doesn't work out and is a
learning experience.
There can be a number of issues created, by parts or all of this
being switched off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Control_Message_Protocol
I don't know if I've ever felt that way. There are things we don't know in the
current situation, but it's only because we aren't there. If we were able to
walk in and look around, I don't think any significant mysteries would remain.
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-22 19:16:33 UTC
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Post by jetjock
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by jetjock
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
are converted to mp4.
One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
and what's inside can be lots of different flavours. What cameras
produce "live", due to limited processor power and lack of ability to
look ahead far, isn't necessarily what TV shows are (with plenty of
opportunity to process).
Post by jetjock
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
does. I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
up-down speed was what it was referencing. But, since I've never had
Others have answered that - it's not the speed of the signal from the
box to the internet, but assorted (and probably shared) links within the
community).
Post by jetjock
to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
Probably wouldn't help, but trying one of the common addresses -
192.168.x.y, where x.y can be 0.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.1, 254.?, or various
other possibilities - or, 10.0.0.2 - might get you to the web interface
of the "router". (Which, if it's anything like a UK one, will give you
some top level information; to get further in, you'll need the password
which here would be on a slide-out panel in the "router", along with the
name and password of the wifi.)
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
Post by Char Jackson
You're welcome. Enjoy!
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
jetjock<<<<<<<<<<
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Q. How much is 2 + 2?
A. Thank you so much for asking your question.
Are you still having this problem? I'll be delighted to help you. Please
restate the problem twice and include your Windows version along with
all error logs.
- Mayayana in alt.windows7.general, 2018-11-1
Paul
2023-09-23 01:28:54 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver
One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
and what's inside can be lots of different flavours.
There are "containers" and "CODECs".

A given "container" cannot use all CODEC types.
If you use certain editing applications, this
will annoy you, when you go to save, and the tool
slaps your fingers and tells you that CODEC can't
be used in this container choice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska ,mkv
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave .avi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP4_file_format .mp4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats

If you ask FFMPEG for "what things it supports" on the command line,
that can serve as an encyclopedia of multimedia info for you. That, and
the web site they provide.

You can, as the builder of FFMPEG, switch off support for some things.
This is why, when you operate FFMPEG, it "dumps a paragraph of stuff"
to the terminal. That paragraph includes the words for all the
things it has compiled in. In Linux, NVDEC and NVENC are missing,
because they are non-free hardware features, and the violate the
esthetic of the Linusians. If you want those to be included in
your Linux version of FFMPEG, you have to build it yourself (which I did!).
The Linux version of NVENC is a tiny bit faster than the Windows
version of it :-)

Paul
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-23 12:13:01 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by J. P. Gilliver
One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
and what's inside can be lots of different flavours.
There are "containers" and "CODECs".
A given "container" cannot use all CODEC types.
But it can contain several, sometimes quite varied.
Post by Paul
If you use certain editing applications, this
will annoy you, when you go to save, and the tool
slaps your fingers and tells you that CODEC can't
be used in this container choice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matroska ,mkv
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Video_Interleave .avi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP4_file_format .mp4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_container_formats
Thanks for the links. Noted (though quite possibly will never look!).
Post by Paul
If you ask FFMPEG for "what things it supports" on the command line,
that can serve as an encyclopedia of multimedia info for you. That, and
the web site they provide.
I think the days I will use ffmpeg from the command line are long behind
me, unless I get _very_ frustrated! I do use it a lot, but unknowingly -
there are copies of it on my machine in folders associated with:
Shotcut, SuperSimple Video Converter, pazera audio extractor, Winamp,
yt-dlp, Skype, and EdgeWebView.
Post by Paul
You can, as the builder of FFMPEG, switch off support for some things.
This is why, when you operate FFMPEG, it "dumps a paragraph of stuff"
to the terminal. That paragraph includes the words for all the
things it has compiled in. In Linux, NVDEC and NVENC are missing,
because they are non-free hardware features, and the violate the
esthetic of the Linusians. If you want those to be included in
your Linux version of FFMPEG, you have to build it yourself (which I did!).
The Linux version of NVENC is a tiny bit faster than the Windows
version of it :-)
Paul
I haven't compiled/built anything for many years!

Vaguely back to what (at least somebody) was talking about - I think I'm
right in that the formats (including whatever container they choose)
created by cameras are a more restricted set than the ones available,
because of the restrictions of real-time encoding in the camera
(processor and memory for look-ahead).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"There is no such thing as bad weather - only the wrong clothes." - Billy
Connolly, in his World Tour of England, Ireland and Wales, 4 March 2002 (BBC1).
Paul
2023-09-23 16:26:52 UTC
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Vaguely back to what (at least somebody) was talking about - I think I'm right in that the formats (including whatever container they choose) created by cameras are a more restricted set than the ones available, because of the restrictions of real-time encoding in the camera (processor and memory for look-ahead).
Cameras can make rather nice things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_video_device_class

"Formats

Uncompressed YUV formats YUY2, NV12
DV formats SD-DV, SDL-DV, and HD-DV (525-60, 625-50, 1125–60, 1250-50)
Frame-based
Video stream formats like
MPEG-2 TS
H.264
MPEG-4 SL
SMPTE VC1
VP8
MJPEG
"

There was a time, when power and area considerations
made ideas like that impossible. But they can do it now.

The thing is, frameserve subsystem in W10/W11, their design
choice was to use the uncompressed formats, and this is
actually driving the design of webcams, backwards. If a developer
had considered eliminating the uncompressed formats, they can't
now, because they have to support at least one format that
works with "frameserve". In this blog entry, there is a diagram
at the bottom, showing one case of how they got around that limitation.

https://alax.info/blog/1686

One of the objectives of producing a compressed format,
is so the output can be "used directly for some purpose".

Same as digital TV tuners produce a "useful output", at 2MB/sec.
It's ready to be recorded right onto a disk drive, no number
crunching required. It came across the airwaves, ready to use.
It's a bitstream, with FEC (forward error correction).

Paul
J. P. Gilliver
2023-09-23 22:36:37 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Vaguely back to what (at least somebody) was talking about - I think
I'm right in that the formats (including whatever container they
choose) created by cameras are a more restricted set than the ones
available, because of the restrictions of real-time encoding in the
camera (processor and memory for look-ahead).
Cameras can make rather nice things.
But probably not all can make all the standard allows, especially older
cameras. The camera I'm currently using has a driver CD that says it's
for 98...XP, though I don't use the driver disc, I just take the SD card
out of it and put it in the laptop. (Easier than looking round for a
suitable cable - and I'd worry about wearing out the socket in the
camera anyway - IME they're not great.)
[]
Post by Paul
There was a time, when power and area considerations
made ideas like that impossible. But they can do it now.
The thing is, frameserve subsystem in W10/W11, their design
Reading this in the '7 'group (-:
[]
Post by Paul
Same as digital TV tuners produce a "useful output", at 2MB/sec.
It's ready to be recorded right onto a disk drive, no number
crunching required. It came across the airwaves, ready to use.
It's a bitstream, with FEC (forward error correction).
All the (few) TV prog.s I've recorded in the last year or so I've
yt-dlp'd from the "available for X days/weeks/whatever after broadcast"
page on the broadcaster's website (mostly BBC). Oh, now you mention it,
my TV box does have a USB socket on it - and I think I did use that
once. That produced .ts files (which my VLC plays).
Post by Paul
Paul
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If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they
don't want to hear. - Preface to "Animal Farm"
jetjock
2023-09-23 18:11:20 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:16:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 23:31:23 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
Post by J. P. Gilliver
[]
Post by jetjock
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
I've found ones I've shot often need converting before I can do certain
things with them, such as upload to Twitter.
Convert to what? Mine are already mp4 which is supposedly what Plex
likes. My TV shows are all in mkv but when Plex "Optimizes" them, they
are converted to mp4.
One of the common filetypes - I think it's mp4 - is just a "wrapper",
and what's inside can be lots of different flavours. What cameras
produce "live", due to limited processor power and lack of ability to
look ahead far, isn't necessarily what TV shows are (with plenty of
opportunity to process).
Post by jetjock
Post by J. P. Gilliver
Post by jetjock
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
I'm not sure why your down/upload speed is relevant to watching videos
you've shot yourself - unless by "stream", which I assumed you just
meant from your computer to your TV, you mean send to someone outside
your home. So I'm probably not understanding what you mean.
By "stream" I mean just that; from computer to TV which is what Plex
does. I can't remember the exact message that Plex throws up after
buffering for about 30-40 secs, but it has something to do with not
having a strong enough connection. Since the only connection is via
WiFi, and our Internet connection is also WiFi, I assumed that the
up-down speed was what it was referencing. But, since I've never had
Others have answered that - it's not the speed of the signal from the
box to the internet, but assorted (and probably shared) links within the
community).
Post by jetjock
to deal with a situation such as I now have in this retirement
community (communal WiFi with no way to access the router or modem via
computer), I really am not sure what I'm dealing with. :-(
Probably wouldn't help, but trying one of the common addresses -
192.168.x.y, where x.y can be 0.0, 0.1, 1.0, 1.1, 254.?, or various
other possibilities - or, 10.0.0.2 - might get you to the web interface
of the "router". (Which, if it's anything like a UK one, will give you
some top level information; to get further in, you'll need the password
which here would be on a slide-out panel in the "router", along with the
name and password of the wifi.)
I've tried all of those, plus several more with no luck. Tried
ipconfig /all and got this:

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : TAP-Windows Adapter V9
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-FF-89-15-F2-A5
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : attlocal.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Ethernet Connection
(2) I218-V
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 10-C3-7B-6B-9A-E1
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{8915F2A5-B28C-4887-8AE7-CA3062ADBD5D}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{8FC5C10D-FA8D-4C4D-AB4A-E5C4629FFF7F}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #2
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{6C49B77A-3650-45E9-A564-6F02A5DE3898}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #3
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{C80BE3CC-5DF6-4AFA-BB0E-40188A548357}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #4
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.attlocal.net:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #5
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter isatap.{303C90CE-E7DB-4196-8A1C-8544547025D1}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter #6
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Maybe all that will mean more to someone here that it does to me. All
it means to me is that I can't find an IP address to access the router
to move it to the best channel.

When I did a WiFi scan it showed me on channel one today with a spike
of -40db. Yesterday, it was another channel. The phone app I used is
very flaky lately and nothing but one ad after another, so don't put
too much stock in what it says! Will see if I can't find a better one,
but since I can't change the channel, probably won't help much! :-(

C:\Users\Mike>
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You're welcome. Enjoy!
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Char Jackson
2023-09-21 23:10:13 UTC
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You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
to ask though, right?
I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
that it wouldn't be in there.
I also checked several places but about all I learned was that Plex
provides virtually no support for their program! :-( Their forums are
a joke and when I searched their support, there were more unanswered
questions than answered ones.
Good to know, thanks. I haven't needed support for what I do with it. I'm mostly
dealing with movies and TV series, where I convert everything to mkv, if it's
not already in that format.
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by jetjock
Post by jetjock
Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
again!
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
If those WiFi speeds are from/to the Internet, they're irrelevant for what
you're doing. You need to know what kind of speed you're getting between the
Plex server and the Fire Stick. Maybe you can temporarily move the two closer
together, as a test? Is the Fire Stick able to stream anything else? You need to
determine whether it's a WiFi issue, a Fire Stick issue, or something else.
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2023-09-22 14:33:14 UTC
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You wouldn't happen to know how to change the slide duration when
showing photos, would you? It's set for 30 secs which is way too long
(IMHO). Since you said you don't do photos, probably not. Never hurts
to ask though, right?
I don't know so I checked Google and now I still don't know. I only found
instances of people asking the same question and being told that it might not be
possible to adjust the time. That seems like a basic function, so I'm surprised
that it wouldn't be in there.
I also checked several places but about all I learned was that Plex
provides virtually no support for their program! :-( Their forums are
a joke and when I searched their support, there were more unanswered
questions than answered ones.
Good to know, thanks. I haven't needed support for what I do with it. I'm mostly
dealing with movies and TV series, where I convert everything to mkv, if it's
not already in that format.
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Thanks for working with me! Plex looks like it will be a nice addition
if I can ever figure out how to make it work.
Things are working pretty good now. I'll keep playing with it. Thanks
again!
I've found that Plex will not stream videos that I have shot...or
rather it will if I want to watch 15 minutes of a yellow circle
spinning to watch a 3-4 min video. Our WiFi download speed is
supposedly around 120mbs and upload around 220mbs (I know, that is
reversed from normal) so I don't know why streaming is so slow.
If those WiFi speeds are from/to the Internet, they're irrelevant for what
you're doing. You need to know what kind of speed you're getting between the
Plex server and the Fire Stick. Maybe you can temporarily move the two closer
together, as a test?
Not practical in my case.
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Is the Fire Stick able to stream anything else? You need to
determine whether it's a WiFi issue, a Fire Stick issue, or something else.
Fire Stick can stream other programs, but not without some buffering.
Pretty sure it's our WiFi being very unstable. Will try another WiFi
analyzer and see if it works better than the one I have.
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Frank Slootweg
2023-09-20 17:30:36 UTC
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Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to.
As long as someone is passing the popcorn, it's fine by me.

But seriously, I'm actually following the threads with interest,
because some day (Yeah, *right*!), I might look into Plex myself.
Currently I'm just using the Media Server of my (Synology) NAS.

So carry on.

[...]
Char Jackson
2023-09-20 18:42:30 UTC
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Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to.
As long as someone is passing the popcorn, it's fine by me.
But seriously, I'm actually following the threads with interest,
because some day (Yeah, *right*!), I might look into Plex myself.
Currently I'm just using the Media Server of my (Synology) NAS.
So carry on.
[...]
OK, looks like we have at least one lurker, so let's go. :)
jetjock
2023-09-21 14:49:17 UTC
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Char,
This conversation is kind of off-topic here.
It is, but no one is asking us to knock it off, so far. Maybe they're just
getting ready to.
As long as someone is passing the popcorn, it's fine by me.
But seriously, I'm actually following the threads with interest,
because some day (Yeah, *right*!), I might look into Plex myself.
Currently I'm just using the Media Server of my (Synology) NAS.
So carry on.
[...]
Thanks for your blessing! Means a lot coming from a regular here. :-)
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