WiFi and Cat5 Speed.

[OldGuy]

Win 7 Pro laptop to ATT router.
On ATT Uverse 50mb service.

Using Chrome

via WiFi connection
Speedtest.net reports 30mb download and 5 mb upload.

Speedof.me reports 20mb download and 5 mb upload.

via Cat5 connection
Speedtest.net reports 50mb download and 5 mb upload.

Speedof.me reports 25mb download and 5 mb upload.

Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?

Which is correct?



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Post by OldGuy
Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?
Which is correct?

Neither is "correct" - I think you're experiencing the difference in the
traffic load between your location and the servers performing the test.
You might try ping and tracert to see the time delays at each step on
the path.

[Ed Cryer]

Post by OldGuy
Win 7 Pro laptop to ATT router.
On ATT Uverse 50mb service.
Using Chrome
via WiFi connection
Speedtest.net reports 30mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 20mb download and 5 mb upload.
via Cat5 connection
Speedtest.net reports 50mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 25mb download and 5 mb upload.
Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?
Which is correct?

The testing is done by simply downloading a file and then uploading it.
From that they get the mean speed figures.
I don't need to say more. It's obvious that time of day, traffic, even
weather sometimes can come into play.

The upload is constant.

Try again at a different time of day.

Ed

[Char Jackson]

Post by OldGuy
Win 7 Pro laptop to ATT router.
On ATT Uverse 50mb service.
Using Chrome
via WiFi connection
Speedtest.net reports 30mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 20mb download and 5 mb upload.
via Cat5 connection
Speedtest.net reports 50mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 25mb download and 5 mb upload.
Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?

The difference is almost certainly because they use different test
parameters. Both likely have you download (and upload) a file of known size
and they time the transfer. Meanwhile, ISP's are known to 'shape' traffic on
their network so that you get an initial burst of speed that then settles
back. Hard to say more without digging in with some tools.

Post by OldGuy
Which is correct?

Neither, and both. Your connection speed varies from one second to the next,
so these types of snapshot tests are rarely truly representative of your
connection speed, especially when you take into account that they transfer a
single file of known size and simply time it. They don't account for other
traffic on your local segment or any of multiple other variables, nor do
they try to.

Still, both are correct in a relative sense. You can use the results from
Site A to compare to earlier results from Site A, and likewise for Site B.
It's not useful to compare Site A to Site B, but each site can be compared
to itself to highlight issues, trends, etc.

To me, it's more useful to start a download of a large file and watch the
throughput in real time. That's much more accurate than any so-called speed
test sites.

[OldGuy]

Did not think I would get this kind of response.

These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop,
and over the course of a month trying at different times of the day and
night.

Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see how
they do it but it still does not explain the difference.



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Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop, and
over the course of a month trying at different times of the day and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see how
they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to the
south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on a
rainy day.

Speedtest: down = 2.75 KB/s, up = 0.79 KB/s, ping 34 ms
SpeedOf.me: down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms

I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.

Ed

[Ed Cryer]

Post by Ed Cryer

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop, and
over the course of a month trying at different times of the day and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see how
they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to the
south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on a
rainy day.
Speedtest: down = 2.75 KB/s, up = 0.79 KB/s, ping 34 ms
SpeedOf.me: down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms
I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.
Ed

Correction. Read "Mbps" instead of "KB/s".

Ed

[Char Jackson]

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Post by Ed Cryer

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop, and
over the course of a month trying at different times of the day and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see how
they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to the
south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on a
rainy day.
Speedtest: down = 2.75 KB/s, up = 0.79 KB/s, ping 34 ms
SpeedOf.me: down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms
I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.
Ed

Correction. Read "Mbps" instead of "KB/s".

I was going to ask if you were on dial-up. ;-)

[mick]

Post by Char Jackson

Post by Ed Cryer

Post by Ed Cryer

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop,
and over the course of a month trying at different times of the day
and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see
how they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to
the south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on a
rainy day.
down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms
I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.
Ed

Correction. Read "Mbps" instead of "KB/s".

I was going to ask if you were on dial-up. ;-)

I guess it's a BT wire so it might as well be dial-up :-)
100 miles south of Ed I'm seeing 94.96Mbps down and 6.17Mbps up

[Ed Cryer]

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Post by Char Jackson

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Post by Ed Cryer

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop,
and over the course of a month trying at different times of the day
and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see
how they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to
the south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on a
rainy day.
down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms
I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.
Ed

Correction. Read "Mbps" instead of "KB/s".

I was going to ask if you were on dial-up. ;-)

I guess it's a BT wire so it might as well be dial-up :-)
100 miles south of Ed I'm seeing 94.96Mbps down and 6.17Mbps up

Hello Birmingham. I don't like Brummie accents.

Ed

[mick]

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Post by Ed Cryer

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and
desktop, and over the course of a month trying at different times
of the day and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see
how they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to
the south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on
a rainy day.
down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms
I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.
Ed

Correction. Read "Mbps" instead of "KB/s".

I was going to ask if you were on dial-up. ;-)

I guess it's a BT wire so it might as well be dial-up :-)
100 miles south of Ed I'm seeing 94.96Mbps down and 6.17Mbps up

Hello Birmingham. I don't like Brummie accents.
Ed

Nope, 100 miles east of there, thank goodness :-)

[Ed Cryer]

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Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and
desktop, and over the course of a month trying at different times
of the day and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see
how they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

I've run tests just now on both; to a server in London, 200 miles to
the south.
The time locally is 5-00pm and the kids are all home from school on
a rainy day.
down = 2.93 KB/s, up = 0.81 KB/s, latency 45ms
I have a telephone wire connection; and the results are my usual.
The speed graphs displayed on each site during the downloads are
revealing. I had several deep valleys on both.
Ed

Correction. Read "Mbps" instead of "KB/s".

I was going to ask if you were on dial-up. ;-)

I guess it's a BT wire so it might as well be dial-up :-)
100 miles south of Ed I'm seeing 94.96Mbps down and 6.17Mbps up

Hello Birmingham. I don't like Brummie accents.
Ed

Nope, 100 miles east of there, thank goodness :-)

Hello Cambridge. I used to punt on the Cam.

Ed

[SC Tom]

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop, and
over the course of a month trying at different times of the day and night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see how
they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

My cable connection is a 20Mb down, 2Mb up. If I use Hargray's tester (which
is really OOKLA), I get near the same results as the first tests. I don't
have a location choice with it, so I have no idea where they are connecting
to test their speeds.

CAT5
Speedof.me 21.92↓ 2.00↑
Speedtest.net 20.18↓ 2.08↑

WiFi
Speedof.me 3.19↓ 2.08↑
Speedtest.net 8.72↓ 2.09↑

Those are on my Win10Pro laptop. The WiFi driver has some serious issues, so
I don't use it unless I have to.

On my desktop, the CAT5 results are
Speedof.me 21.47↓ 2.06↑
Speedtest.net 19.73↓ 2.11↑

On Speedtest.net, I have a choice of 3 locations to choose, and 2 give close
the same results, and the 3rd (Charleston) is considerably slower on
downloads(about 20% slower). I would attribute that to the lunch crowd
catching up, and regular business-as-usual traffic for this time of day.

[Char Jackson]

Post by OldGuy
Did not think I would get this kind of response.

Do you mean multiple helpful replies? ;-)

Post by OldGuy
These are the same results I get on several PCs, laptop and desktop,
and over the course of a month trying at different times of the day and
night.
Always the same results. Very consistent.
If you go to the websites and also run the speed test you will see how
they do it but it still does not explain the difference.

Well, I tried, as did several others.

[Paul in Houston TX]

Post by OldGuy
Win 7 Pro laptop to ATT router.
On ATT Uverse 50mb service.
Using Chrome
via WiFi connection
Speedtest.net reports 30mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 20mb download and 5 mb upload.
via Cat5 connection
Speedtest.net reports 50mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 25mb download and 5 mb upload.
Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?
Which is correct?

Try this one. It has cool graphics:
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

[OldGuy]

Post by Paul in Houston TX
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

I like that site!
The results are similar to the SpeedOf.Me site but the info reported is
much better.



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Post by Paul in Houston TX
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

I like that site!
The results are similar to the SpeedOf.Me site but the info reported is
much better.

And I get an error message about Java with no additional advice!!!

[SC Tom]

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Post by OldGuy

Post by Paul in Houston TX
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

I like that site!
The results are similar to the SpeedOf.Me site but the info reported is
much better.

And I get an error message about Java with no additional advice!!!

That's very strange. It doesn't use Java, which is good since I don't have
it installed. Did you try a different browser by chance? Works fine here
with Firefox 41 and IE11.

[Wolf K]

Post by Paul in Houston TX

Post by OldGuy
Win 7 Pro laptop to ATT router.
On ATT Uverse 50mb service.
Using Chrome
via WiFi connection
Speedtest.net reports 30mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 20mb download and 5 mb upload.
via Cat5 connection
Speedtest.net reports 50mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 25mb download and 5 mb upload.
Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?
Which is correct?

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

In my experience, the following are the main determinants of d/l speed:
a) time of day. Slow just after work starts, when everybody is checking
their mail.
b) other users on the home network d/l stuff.
c) the source: some servers are just overloaded.

In any case, raw speed isn't the issue: speed of acquiring good data is
what matters. A bad line anywhere in the links between you and the
source can reduce effective speed, error correction and resending of bad
data packets take time.

Have a good day,

[Micky]

Post by OldGuy
Win 7 Pro laptop to ATT router.
On ATT Uverse 50mb service.
Using Chrome
via WiFi connection
Speedtest.net reports 30mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 20mb download and 5 mb upload.
via Cat5 connection
Speedtest.net reports 50mb download and 5 mb upload.
Speedof.me reports 25mb download and 5 mb upload.
Why the big difference between Speestest.net and Speedof.me?
Which is correct?

I try not to worry about things I can't change, but its good to see
the confirmation that cat5 is better than wifi. That's especially
true here where the air is thick.