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Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
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Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 03:37:55 UTC
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Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/>

The NewPipe open source software on F-Droid is basically YouTube on
steroids, where it searches, views, plays, extracts, downloads, etc.,
youtube videos without any advertisements.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/>

The main three things it does for you over YouTube are
1. No advertisements
2. Extracts audio from video (if you want that)
3. Downloads the video (if you want that)

Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
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John Doe
2017-12-31 06:40:27 UTC
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The same spam was posted a few months ago.
There is no need in Windows. Adblock handles YouTube advertising.
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Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/>
The NewPipe open source software on F-Droid is basically YouTube on
steroids, where it searches, views, plays, extracts, downloads, etc.,
youtube videos without any advertisements.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/>
The main three things it does for you over YouTube are
1. No advertisements
2. Extracts audio from video (if you want that)
3. Downloads the video (if you want that)
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
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NOTE: DO NOT USE the New Pipe on Google Play - it's a knockoff of the
F-Droid open source code but with added annoyances and ads.
Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 15:50:08 UTC
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Post by John Doe
There is no need in Windows. Adblock handles YouTube advertising.
Does Adblock also block in-video youtube advertisements?

How?
Mark Lloyd
2017-12-31 16:55:06 UTC
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Post by John Doe
The same spam was posted a few months ago.
There is no need in Windows. Adblock handles YouTube advertising.
And that's what I'm doing on Android too. Firefox / Adblock Plus.
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Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 17:26:32 UTC
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Post by Mark Lloyd
And that's what I'm doing on Android too. Firefox / Adblock Plus.
This is the second time Adblock has come up, and yet, nobody has answered
the basic questions about Adblock yet.

Both John Doe and Mark Lloyd have implied that AdBlock does what New Pipe
does, which is *great* if it's actually true since New Pipe does a *lot* of
good things.

1. How does Adblock block all in-video (aka slipstream) ads?

Less critically...
2. How does Adblock download the video as a video?
3. How does Adblock extract the audio from the video?

Even less critically:
4. How does AdBlock play the video in *any* video player you want it to?
5. How does AdBlock search all YouTube videos without any web browser?
Mayayana
2017-12-31 17:34:30 UTC
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"Joe Scotch" <***@aol.com> wrote
This is the second time Adblock has come up, and yet, nobody has answered
the basic questions about Adblock yet.
DownloadHelper downloads the videos. No ads.
you can play them as you like and store a copy.
If you want to know how AdBlock Plus works then
why not try it yourself?
Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 19:19:22 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
DownloadHelper downloads the videos. No ads.
you can play them as you like and store a copy.
If you want to know how AdBlock Plus works then
why not try it yourself?
I appreciate that you are trying to stay on topic, which is how to get the
functionality of New Pipe in a single executable on Windows (and not by
multiple methods - none of which do what New Pipe does).

I appreciate your advice on how to download a video but most of the time
I'm streaming the video (because I just want to watch it without what
Man-wai Chang called "slipstream ads").

If I had wanted to *only* download videos, rest assured I know all about
downloading videos, probably better than most people do, but maybe not as
well as you do since you use a browser to do what I'd just use a simple
one-line command to do (so you may know more than I do on how to download
1-hour, 2-hour and 3-hour videos which is what I generally download if I
feel the need.)

On Windows, I download any YouTube video by running this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
Or I extract just the audio with this simple command:
C:] youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 {URL}

But most of the time I'm just streaming the video, where you're the *third*
person to imply that AdBlock does that, all by itself, without even a
browser, which is odd becuase that's not what I think AdBlock does.

Everyone thinks AdBlock is Jesus Christ incarnate, but it's just a
host-file blocker - which if I wanted that, I'd use Acrylic DNS instead (or
maybe just the MVP Hosts file).

AdBlock is not Jesus Christ incarnate - although everyone here seems to
think it is.

In fact, you're the third person to imply Adblock does everything that New
Pipe does.

And yet, nobody has answered the simple question which is how AdBlock, all
by itself, removes what Man-wai Chang calls "slipstream" ads from any
YouTube video?

This is a simple question which can be answered by anyone who uses AdBlock
while streaming YouTube videos.

While this thread was never intended to be an AdBlock versus NewPipe
question, since three people intimated that AdBlock does everything that
New Pipe does - the main question is whether Ad Block does the *simplest*
thing that New Pipe does.

It's a simple question, which nobody has answered yet.
And I can't tell from the AdBlock ads!


In fact, the NYT says AdBlock is designed to *allow* ads???????
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

So I'm forced to ask the 3 people who suggested AdBlock a simple question.
*Does AdBlock block all slipstream ads from inside of videos or not?*
Mayayana
2017-12-31 20:52:12 UTC
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"Joe Scotch" <***@aol.com> wrote
In fact, you're the third person to imply Adblock does everything that New
Pipe does.
I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
how it works then try it and stop yapping.
Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 23:18:55 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
how it works then try it and stop yapping.
Hi Mayayana,

Thanks for the advice.

Ad Block is a completely different tool than New Pipe is, where they're not
in the least similar.

To your point, I'm sure a *combination* of a half dozen Windows tools will
do what New Pipe does all by itself, but that was never the question.

The question is just whether anyone knows of a New Pipe app on Windows, and
if it doesn't yet exist, then how hard would it be for a coder to compile
New Pipe on Windows from the open source code.
Mark Lloyd
2018-01-01 16:26:05 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
In fact, you're the third person to imply Adblock does everything that New
Pipe does.
I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
how it works then try it and stop yapping.
I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
browser on YouTube.

I do have a Firefox extension on my computer to download from YouTube. I
don't need to do this on Android.
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Mayayana
2018-01-01 16:34:35 UTC
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"Mark Lloyd" <***@mail.invalid> wrote

| > I said no such thing. I have no interest in either
| > Adblock or New Pipe. I don't use ad blocking software
| > and I don't stream videos. I only said if you want to know
| > how it works then try it and stop yapping.
|
| I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
| browser on YouTube.
|

We seem to have some sort of crazed OSS evangelist
here who has no intention of actually communicating.
He's only using posts as an excuse to post additional
sales pitches. At least it's free, anyway. :)
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:49 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
We seem to have some sort of crazed OSS evangelist
here who has no intention of actually communicating.
He's only using posts as an excuse to post additional
sales pitches. At least it's free, anyway. :)
Hi Mayayana,

I don't argue with you that I think differently, although I think my
thinking is logical in that I argue that a single open source tool that
does *everything* is better than a dozen tools that do the same things.

The cost in finding a tool that does everything is the problem because
there are myriad easy solutions that do each of the things individually.

For example, you use a global ad-blocking solution such as Acrylic DNS,
which you know most people haven't bothered to learn, while some people use
a hosts file instead to block ten thousand hosts - while most people just
fall prey to the AdBlock solution, which even they must admit only works in
a small world inside a single browser at a time.

My feelings on AdBlock are that it's a small bandaid that works fine for
the small thing that it does - but - for example - it doesn't download
videos and it requires a browser and it doesn't extract videos and it
doesn't search for videos and it doesn't play videos, etc.

So anyone who suggests AdBlock didn't understand what New Pipe does.

So it's clearly my fault for not explaining that New Pipe does a lot more
than AdBlock could ever do - so AdBlock can't possibly answer the question.

Having explained that simple miscommunication on my part, the odd thing
here is that nobody who uses AdBlock has confirmed that AdBlock blocks what
Man-wai Chang called "slipstream" ads.

Can we get a simple "yes" or "no" from the AdBlock proponents?
Q: Does AdBlock block the YouTube internal "slipstream" video ads?
John Doe
2018-01-02 03:37:11 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
We seem to have some sort of crazed OSS evangelist
here who has no intention of actually communicating.
He's only using posts as an excuse to post additional
sales pitches. At least it's free, anyway. :)
Or maybe it is mentally retarded.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 03:40:13 UTC
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Post by John Doe
Or maybe it is mentally retarded.
John Doe the troll,

What value does your obvious trolling add toward getting *all* of us on
Windows the same capabilities that the New Pipe executable conveys on
Android?
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:50 UTC
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Post by Mark Lloyd
I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
browser on YouTube.
I appreciate the correction, where Usenet is a tough medium when people
start with pre-conceived notions - and where I generally think differently
than do most people about KISS simple software solutions.

I don't disagree that AdBlock will block ads, but I just want someone to
confirm we're talking about the *same* kind of ads, since there are
multiple kinds of ads when you add the complexity of a web browser.

For a web browser, there are so many types of ads that it's not funny.

The only ad that the question is concerned with are the "slipstreamed" ads
that are *inserted* inside a YouTube video.
Post by Mark Lloyd
I do have a Firefox extension on my computer to download from YouTube. I
don't need to do this on Android.
The problem with Firefox extensions is that they only work for Firefox
browsers, so you're constantly adding extensions to Chrome & Windows based
browsers if you go the route of extensions.

Also, the problem with browsers is that they have a huge host of other
issues, and a huge host of other ways to throw ads at you - so a browser is
really a bad tool (IMHO) to use from those perspectives - to use to simply
download or extract a video.

I'm not at all saying that your browser-download and extraction method
doesn't work - and if all you use is a single browser - and if you do lots
of other things in that browser to set it up - I'm sure it's just as good.

I simply argue that this single step is better in a whole bunch of ways:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 <URL>

Having said all that - I appreciate the help and advice - where I would
just want someone to *confirm* that the AdBlocker everyone seems to love
actually blocks the one type of (slipstream) ads inside a YouTube video.
John Doe
2018-01-02 03:33:23 UTC
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This thing can't figure out for itself whether "AdBlocker
actually blocks the one type of (slipstream) ads inside a
YouTube video" ???
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Post by Mark Lloyd
I didn't say it either. I said Adblock blocks ads when you use your
browser on YouTube.
I appreciate the correction, where Usenet is a tough medium when people
start with pre-conceived notions - and where I generally think differently
than do most people about KISS simple software solutions.
I don't disagree that AdBlock will block ads, but I just want someone to
confirm we're talking about the *same* kind of ads, since there are
multiple kinds of ads when you add the complexity of a web browser.
For a web browser, there are so many types of ads that it's not funny.
The only ad that the question is concerned with are the "slipstreamed" ads
that are *inserted* inside a YouTube video.
Post by Mark Lloyd
I do have a Firefox extension on my computer to download from YouTube. I
don't need to do this on Android.
The problem with Firefox extensions is that they only work for Firefox
browsers, so you're constantly adding extensions to Chrome & Windows based
browsers if you go the route of extensions.
Also, the problem with browsers is that they have a huge host of other
issues, and a huge host of other ways to throw ads at you - so a browser is
really a bad tool (IMHO) to use from those perspectives - to use to simply
download or extract a video.
I'm not at all saying that your browser-download and extraction method
doesn't work - and if all you use is a single browser - and if you do lots
of other things in that browser to set it up - I'm sure it's just as good.
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 <URL>
Having said all that - I appreciate the help and advice - where I would
just want someone to *confirm* that the AdBlocker everyone seems to love
actually blocks the one type of (slipstream) ads inside a YouTube video.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 03:38:47 UTC
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Post by John Doe
This thing can't figure out for itself whether "AdBlocker
actually blocks the one type of (slipstream) ads inside a
YouTube video" ???
Hi John Doe,
I completely understand your need to troll, but I already said that
everyone who promotes Ad Blocker treats it as Jesus Christ incarnate.

It's not even an Ad Blocker for heaven's sake.
It doesn't do one tenth of what the tool we're trying to get working on
Windows does.

That you can't comprehend that is not a problem for most of us who have
intellect - but why do you muddle this technical thread with your troll?

What value does your obvious trolling add toward getting *all* of us the
same capabilities that the New Pipe executable conveys?

Really. Think about the *negative value* of your post please.
This post is designed to make YOU think about your negative value.

We are trying to improve our tribal knowledge here.
You are trying to detract from that with your trolling of useless drivel.
Diesel
2018-01-03 02:37:39 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by John Doe
This thing can't figure out for itself whether "AdBlocker
actually blocks the one type of (slipstream) ads inside a
YouTube video" ???
Hi John Doe,
I completely understand your need to troll, but I already said
that everyone who promotes Ad Blocker treats it as Jesus Christ
incarnate.
I've never actually used it. :) Noscript serves me well for most ad
blocking needs, although it's not specifically designed for that
single purpose.
Post by Joe Scotch
We are trying to improve our tribal knowledge here.
You are trying to detract from that with your trolling of useless drivel.
You've been a usenetter for a very long time, I suspect you may
infact predate me by a decade or more. That being said, you should
know that your post however well intended has most likely fallen on
deaf ears.
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 19:24:09 UTC
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Post by Diesel
I've never actually used it. :) Noscript serves me well for most ad
blocking needs, although it's not specifically designed for that
single purpose.
There are two different philosophies at work here, and quite a few great
tools that almost everyone loves.

It's clear that many people love AdBlock freeware - that's a given.
It's also clear that many people love NoScript (yesscript included).

For the use model that most people employ, both are great.

But for *my* use model, both suck.

My use model is to use one browser for each task I do on the net, where
each browser is specifically set up for that one task. This has advantages,
but it also comes with disadvantages.

I have more browsers than almost any of you!

My entire Windows system is well organized and philosophically it keeps to
the KISS principle, one of whose tenets is that you try not to do anything
twice.

For that reason (among others) I *never* use browser plugins or addons
(some of which are privacy issues anyway).

In the past, I futzed with NoScript and all the related tools ad infinitum,
but I gave up. The simplest thing to do was just have a browser set up with
Java and another browser set up without java and then only use the one that
I had to use for the application.

Anyway, this is a long-winded explanation of why NoScript and AdBlock isn't
in the cards for my use model - but they're great tools for other use
models.
Post by Diesel
Post by Joe Scotch
We are trying to improve our tribal knowledge here.
You are trying to detract from that with your trolling of useless drivel.
You've been a usenetter for a very long time, I suspect you may
infact predate me by a decade or more. That being said, you should
know that your post however well intended has most likely fallen on
deaf ears.
In what I call the "bandying about" use model, it's not worth any effort to
shut down the trolls because the trolls, like a cancer, once they infest a
thread, have already killed it (they kill it the moment they see it).

You can't beat the trolls simply because they use the same tactics that
cancers use.

So for the "coffee shop banter" model of Usenet, where you really don't
care all that much about the thread, just ignoring the trolls causes them
to attempt to get fed somewhere else.

However ... I don't use the coffee-shop banter Usenet model.
I actually CARE about getting an answer in any given thread.

Hence, I try to shut down the cancer as soon as it happens, although, as I
noted, since they use a base method of destroying the thread, they will
always win whether you try to get rid of the troll cancer or not.

It's the nature of that troll, John Doe, to ruin a thread.
Why do they do that?
I don't know why - but we all know that these trolls thrive on being the
cancer of Usenet.
M.L.
2018-01-01 05:48:50 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
I appreciate that you are trying to stay on topic, which is how to get the
functionality of New Pipe in a single executable on Windows (and not by
multiple methods - none of which do what New Pipe does).
Windows has a native adblocker feature to allow YouTube streaming
without ads, so a New Pipe clone isn't needed for ad blocking. Unlike
Android, Windows has no need for separate adblocking software except
as browser addons.

The completely separate tasks of downloading + mp3 extraction are
handled by browser addons or standalone software. I wouldn't be
surprised if there's a browser addon that can download and extract
from YouTube vids.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 06:18:23 UTC
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Post by M.L.
Windows has a native adblocker feature to allow YouTube streaming
without ads
This is a *great* idea.
How does one turn on this "native adblocker feature" in Windows?
Post by M.L.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a browser addon that can download
and extract from YouTube vids.
There's no value to an addon when all that is needed is a single command:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
M.L.
2018-01-02 10:31:15 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by M.L.
Windows has a native adblocker feature to allow YouTube streaming
without ads
This is a *great* idea.
How does one turn on this "native adblocker feature" in Windows?
You download a hosts (ad blacklist) file and copy it into
c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts
Post by Joe Scotch
Post by M.L.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a browser addon that can download
and extract from YouTube vids.
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
Command line downloading is inefficient if you want to download
multiple vids or extract multiple mp3s at a time.
Diesel
2018-01-03 02:37:40 UTC
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Post by M.L.
Post by Joe Scotch
Post by M.L.
Windows has a native adblocker feature to allow YouTube
streaming without ads
This is a *great* idea.
How does one turn on this "native adblocker feature" in Windows?
You download a hosts (ad blacklist) file and copy it into
c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts
That requires the advertising servers to remain static. They can
change IP/domain names anytime they like, rendering the previous
entries null and void. The hosts file was never actually intended for
the way in which you suggest using it...Despite it working to a point
for that purpose. It's the wrong tool for the job.
Post by M.L.
Post by Joe Scotch
Post by M.L.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a browser addon that can
download and extract from YouTube vids.
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
Command line downloading is inefficient if you want to download
multiple vids or extract multiple mp3s at a time.
It depends entirely on the command line and the tool you're using as
well as the site in which you're pulling the material from. One size
doesn't fit all.
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 19:45:00 UTC
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Post by Diesel
Post by M.L.
You download a hosts (ad blacklist) file and copy it into
c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts
That requires the advertising servers to remain static. They can
change IP/domain names anytime they like, rendering the previous
entries null and void. The hosts file was never actually intended for
the way in which you suggest using it...Despite it working to a point
for that purpose. It's the wrong tool for the job.
I periodically slide into my master HOSTS file the MVP Hosts file.
<http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/>
Post by Diesel
Post by M.L.
Command line downloading is inefficient if you want to download
multiple vids or extract multiple mp3s at a time.
It depends entirely on the command line and the tool you're using as
well as the site in which you're pulling the material from. One size
doesn't fit all.
The tool I use has a billion switches to do anything you want, from
downloading every third file in a playlist to a regular expression used on
a playlist to file size limitations, to not downloading videos in the
playlist without sufficient views or after a certain date, or whatever.

It's kind of like ImageMagick or vim in that there is already a built-in
option for everything anyone has ever needed.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 19:41:12 UTC
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Post by M.L.
Post by Joe Scotch
This is a *great* idea.
How does one turn on this "native adblocker feature" in Windows?
You download a hosts (ad blacklist) file and copy it into
c:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\hosts
Oh. That's all you were talking about.
Bummer. I thought there was something in Windows I didn't know about.

I already use the same hosts file on all my devices, including Android,
where on Windows it started years ago as Peter's Host File and then
added the MVP Hosts file and a plethora of other hosts files and
then I learned how to cull out the duplicates and to easily add
lines to the MASTER hosts file which I keep on Windows.

On Windows, for example, this edits my hosts file:
Start > Run > hosts
Where we've discussed, on this very newsgroup, the Windows
'magic' in the registry App Paths key to make that work flawlessly.
HKLM > SOFTWARE > Microsoft > Windows > CurrentVersion > App Paths >
hosts.exe
Post by M.L.
Post by Joe Scotch
Post by M.L.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a browser addon that can download
and extract from YouTube vids.
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
Command line downloading is inefficient if you want to download
multiple vids or extract multiple mp3s at a time.
I have to disagree in that the tool I use does *everything*
you can possibly do with *any* combination of other tools.

For example, it handles playlists in a bunch of ways, and
it can download based on regular expressions that go further
than just the name of the video but which can be the number
of the comments and the date of the video and the number of
views and whatever you want.

Check out the manpage (look at "playlists" for example)...
Usage: youtube-dl.exe [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

Options:
General Options:
-h, --help Print this help text and exit
--version Print program version and exit
-U, --update Update this program to latest version.
Make sure that you have sufficient permissions
(run with sudo if needed)
-i, --ignore-errors Continue on download errors, for example to
skip unavailable videos in a playlist
--abort-on-error Abort downloading of further videos (in the
playlist or the command line) if an error
occurs
--dump-user-agent Display the current browser identification
--list-extractors List all supported extractors
--extractor-descriptions Output descriptions of all supported
extractors
--force-generic-extractor Force extraction to use the generic
extractor
--default-search PREFIX Use this prefix for unqualified URLs.
For example "gvsearch2:" downloads two videos
from google videos for youtube-dl "large
apple". Use the value "auto" to let
youtube-dl guess ("auto_warning" to emit a
warning when guessing). "error" just throws
an error. The default value
"fixup_error"
repairs broken URLs, but emits an error if
this is not possible instead of searching.
--ignore-config Do not read configuration files. When given
in the global configuration file /etc
/youtube-dl.conf: Do not read the user
configuration in ~/.config/youtube-
dl/config
(%APPDATA%/youtube-dl/config.txt
on Windows)
--config-location PATH Location of the configuration file; either
the path to the config or its containing
directory.
--flat-playlist Do not extract the videos of a playlist,
only list them.
--mark-watched Mark videos watched (YouTube only)
--no-mark-watched Do not mark videos watched (YouTube only)
--no-color Do not emit color codes in output

Network Options:
--proxy URL Use the specified HTTP/HTTPS/SOCKS proxy.
To enable experimental SOCKS proxy, specify
a proper scheme. For example
socks5://127.0.0.1:1080/. Pass in an empty
string (--proxy "") for direct connection
--socket-timeout SECONDS Time to wait before giving up, in seconds
--source-address IP Client-side IP address to bind to
-4, --force-ipv4 Make all connections via IPv4
-6, --force-ipv6 Make all connections via IPv6

Geo Restriction:
--geo-verification-proxy URL Use this proxy to verify the IP address for
some geo-restricted sites. The default
proxy specified by --proxy (or none, if the
options is not present) is used for the
actual downloading.
--geo-bypass Bypass geographic restriction via faking X
-Forwarded-For HTTP header (experimental)
--no-geo-bypass Do not bypass geographic restriction via
faking X-Forwarded-For HTTP header
(experimental)
--geo-bypass-country CODE Force bypass geographic restriction with
explicitly provided two-letter ISO 3166-2
country code (experimental)

Video Selection:
--playlist-start NUMBER Playlist video to start at (default is 1)
--playlist-end NUMBER Playlist video to end at (default is last)
--playlist-items ITEM_SPEC Playlist video items to download. Specify
indices of the videos in the playlist
separated by commas like: "--playlist-items
1,2,5,8" if you want to download videos
indexed 1, 2, 5, 8 in the playlist. You can
specify range: "--playlist-items 1-3,7,10-13",
it will download the videos at index
1, 2, 3, 7, 10, 11, 12 and 13.
--match-title REGEX Download only matching titles (regex or
caseless sub-string)
--reject-title REGEX Skip download for matching titles (regex or
caseless sub-string)
--max-downloads NUMBER Abort after downloading NUMBER files
--min-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos smaller than
SIZE (e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--max-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos larger than SIZE
(e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--date DATE Download only videos uploaded in this date
--datebefore DATE Download only videos uploaded on or before
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--dateafter DATE Download only videos uploaded on or after
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--min-views COUNT Do not download any videos with less than
COUNT views
--max-views COUNT Do not download any videos with more than
COUNT views
--match-filter FILTER Generic video filter. Specify any key (see
the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a list of
available keys) to match if the key is
present, !key to check if the key is not
present, key > NUMBER (like "comment_count
Post by M.L.
12", also works with >=, <, <=, !=, =) to
compare against a number, key = 'LITERAL'
(like "uploader = 'Mike Smith'", also works
with !=) to match against a string literal
and & to require multiple matches. Values
which are not known are excluded unless you
put a question mark (?) after the operator.
For example, to only match videos that have
been liked more than 100 times and disliked
less than 50 times (or the dislike functionality
is not available at the given service), but who
also have a description,
use --match-filter "like_count > 100 &
dislike_count <? 50 & description" .
--no-playlist Download only the video, if the URL refers
to a video and a playlist.
--yes-playlist Download the playlist, if the URL refers to
a video and a playlist.
--age-limit YEARS Download only videos suitable for the given
age
--download-archive FILE Download only videos not listed in the
archive file. Record the IDs of all
downloaded videos in it.
--include-ads Download advertisements as well
(experimental)

Download Options:
-r, --limit-rate RATE Maximum download rate in bytes per second
(e.g. 50K or 4.2M)
-R, --retries RETRIES Number of retries (default is 10), or
"infinite".
--fragment-retries RETRIES Number of retries for a fragment (default
is 10), or "infinite" (DASH, hlsnative and
ISM)
--skip-unavailable-fragments Skip unavailable fragments (DASH, hlsnative
and ISM)
--abort-on-unavailable-fragment Abort downloading when some fragment is not
available
--keep-fragments Keep downloaded fragments on disk after
downloading is finished; fragments are
erased by default
--buffer-size SIZE Size of download buffer (e.g. 1024 or 16K)
(default is 1024)
--no-resize-buffer Do not automatically adjust the buffer
size. By default, the buffer size is
automatically resized from an initial value
of SIZE.
--playlist-reverse Download playlist videos in reverse order
--playlist-random Download playlist videos in random order
--xattr-set-filesize Set file xattribute ytdl.filesize with
expected file size (experimental)
--hls-prefer-native Use the native HLS downloader instead of
ffmpeg
--hls-prefer-ffmpeg Use ffmpeg instead of the native HLS
downloader
--hls-use-mpegts Use the mpegts container for HLS videos,
allowing to play the video while
downloading (some players may not be able
to play it)
--external-downloader COMMAND Use the specified external downloader.
Currently supports aria2c,avconv,axel,curl,ffmpeg,
httpie,wget
--external-downloader-args ARGS Give these arguments to the external
downloader

Filesystem Options:
-a, --batch-file FILE File containing URLs to download ('-' for
stdin)
--id Use only video ID in file name
-o, --output TEMPLATE Output filename template, see the "OUTPUT
TEMPLATE" for all the info
--autonumber-start NUMBER Specify the start value for %(autonumber)s
(default is 1)
--restrict-filenames Restrict filenames to only ASCII
characters, and avoid "&" and spaces in
filenames
-w, --no-overwrites Do not overwrite files
-c, --continue Force resume of partially downloaded files.
By default, youtube-dl will resume
downloads if possible.
--no-continue Do not resume partially downloaded files
(restart from beginning)
--no-part Do not use .part files - write directly
into output file
--no-mtime Do not use the Last-modified header to set
the file modification time
--write-description Write video description to a .description
file
--write-info-json Write video metadata to a .info.json file
--write-annotations Write video annotations to a
.annotations.xml file
--load-info-json FILE JSON file containing the video information
(created with the "--write-info-json"
option)
--cookies FILE File to read cookies from and dump cookie
jar in
--cache-dir DIR Location in the filesystem where youtube-dl
can store some downloaded information
permanently. By default
$XDG_CACHE_HOME
/youtube-dl or ~/.cache/youtube-dl . At the
moment, only YouTube player files (for
videos with obfuscated signatures) are
cached, but that may change.
--no-cache-dir Disable filesystem caching
--rm-cache-dir Delete all filesystem cache files

Thumbnail images:
--write-thumbnail Write thumbnail image to disk
--write-all-thumbnails Write all thumbnail image formats to disk
--list-thumbnails Simulate and list all available thumbnail
formats

Verbosity / Simulation Options:
-q, --quiet Activate quiet mode
--no-warnings Ignore warnings
-s, --simulate Do not download the video and do not write
anything to disk
--skip-download Do not download the video
-g, --get-url Simulate, quiet but print URL
-e, --get-title Simulate, quiet but print title
--get-id Simulate, quiet but print id
--get-thumbnail Simulate, quiet but print thumbnail URL
--get-description Simulate, quiet but print video description
--get-duration Simulate, quiet but print video length
--get-filename Simulate, quiet but print output filename
--get-format Simulate, quiet but print output format
-j, --dump-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON information.
See the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a description
of available keys.
-J, --dump-single-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON information
for each command-line argument. If the URL
refers to a playlist, dump the whole
playlist information in a single line.
--print-json Be quiet and print the video
information as
JSON (video is still being
downloaded).
--newline Output progress bar as new lines
--no-progress Do not print progress bar
--console-title Display progress in console titlebar
-v, --verbose Print various debugging information
--dump-pages Print downloaded pages encoded using
base64
to debug problems (very verbose)
--write-pages Write downloaded intermediary pages to
files in the current directory to
debug
problems
--print-traffic Display sent and read HTTP traffic
-C, --call-home Contact the youtube-dl server for debugging
--no-call-home Do NOT contact the youtube-dl server for
debugging

Workarounds:
--encoding ENCODING Force the specified encoding (experimental)
--no-check-certificate Suppress HTTPS certificate validation
--prefer-insecure Use an unencrypted connection to retrieve
information about the video. (Currently
supported only for YouTube)
--user-agent UA Specify a custom user agent
--referer URL Specify a custom referer, use if the video
access is restricted to one domain
--add-header FIELD:VALUE Specify a custom HTTP header and its value,
separated by a colon ':'. You can use this
option multiple times
--bidi-workaround Work around terminals that lack
bidirectional text support. Requires bidiv
or fribidi executable in PATH
--sleep-interval SECONDS Number of seconds to sleep before each
download when used alone or a lower bound
of a range for randomized sleep before each
download (minimum possible number of
seconds to sleep) when used along with
--max-sleep-interval.
--max-sleep-interval SECONDS Upper bound of a range for randomized sleep
before each download (maximum possible
number of seconds to sleep). Must only be
used along with --min-sleep-interval.

Video Format Options:
-f, --format FORMAT Video format code, see the "FORMAT
SELECTION" for all the info
--all-formats Download all available video formats
--prefer-free-formats Prefer free video formats unless a
specific
one is requested
-F, --list-formats List all available formats of
requested
videos
--youtube-skip-dash-manifest Do not download the DASH manifests and
related data on YouTube videos
--merge-output-format FORMAT If a merge is required (e.g.
bestvideo+bestaudio), output to given
container format. One of mkv, mp4, ogg,
webm, flv. Ignored if no merge is required

Subtitle Options:
--write-sub Write subtitle file
--write-auto-sub Write automatically generated subtitle file
(YouTube only)
--all-subs Download all the available subtitles of the
video
--list-subs List all available subtitles for the video
--sub-format FORMAT Subtitle format, accepts formats
preference, for example: "srt" or
"ass/srt/best"
--sub-lang LANGS Languages of the subtitles to download
(optional) separated by commas, use
--list-
subs for available language tags
Authentication Options:
-u, --username USERNAME Login with this account ID
-p, --password PASSWORD Account password. If this option is left
out, youtube-dl will ask
interactively.
-2, --twofactor TWOFACTOR Two-factor authentication code
-n, --netrc Use .netrc authentication data
--video-password PASSWORD Video password (vimeo, smotri, youku)

Adobe Pass Options:
--ap-mso MSO Adobe Pass multiple-system operator (TV
provider) identifier, use
--ap-list-mso for
a list of available MSOs
--ap-username USERNAME Multiple-system operator account login
--ap-password PASSWORD Multiple-system operator account password.
If this option is left out, youtube-dl will
ask interactively.
--ap-list-mso List all supported multiple-system
operators

Post-processing Options:
-x, --extract-audio Convert video files to audio-only files
(requires ffmpeg or avconv and ffprobe or
avprobe)
--audio-format FORMAT Specify audio format: "best", "aac",
"flac", "mp3", "m4a", "opus", "vorbis", or
"wav"; "best" by default; No effect without
-x
--audio-quality QUALITY Specify ffmpeg/avconv audio quality, insert
a value between 0 (better) and 9 (worse)
for VBR or a specific bitrate like 128K
(default 5)
--recode-video FORMAT Encode the video to another format if
necessary (currently supported:
mp4|flv|ogg|webm|mkv|avi)
--postprocessor-args ARGS Give these arguments to the postprocessor
-k, --keep-video Keep the video file on disk after the post-
processing; the video is erased by default
--no-post-overwrites Do not overwrite post-processed files; the
post-processed files are overwritten by
default
--embed-subs Embed subtitles in the video (only for mp4,
webm and mkv videos)
--embed-thumbnail Embed thumbnail in the audio as cover art
--add-metadata Write metadata to the video file
--metadata-from-title FORMAT Parse additional metadata like song title /
artist from the video title. The format
syntax is the same as --output. Regular
expression with named capture groups may
also be used. The parsed parameters replace
existing values. Example:
--metadata-from-
title "%(artist)s - %(title)s" matches a
title like "Coldplay - Paradise".
Example
(regex): --metadata-from-title
"(?P<artist>.+?) - (?P<title>.+)"
--xattrs Write metadata to the video file's xattrs
(using dublin core and xdg standards)
--fixup POLICY Automatically correct known faults of the
file. One of never (do nothing), warn (only
emit a warning), detect_or_warn (the
default; fix file if we can, warn
otherwise)
--prefer-avconv Prefer avconv over ffmpeg for running the
postprocessors (default)
--prefer-ffmpeg Prefer ffmpeg over avconv for running the
postprocessors
--ffmpeg-location PATH Location of the ffmpeg/avconv binary;
either the path to the binary or its
containing directory.
--exec CMD Execute a command on the file after
downloading, similar to find's -exec
syntax. Example: --exec 'adb push {}
/sdcard/Music/ && rm {}'
--convert-subs FORMAT Convert the subtitles to other format
(currently supported: srt|ass|vtt)
Char Jackson
2018-01-01 07:29:18 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Everyone thinks AdBlock is Jesus Christ incarnate, but it's just a
host-file blocker - <snip>
That's incorrect. You can use it that way, but it definitely isn't "just
a host-file blocker".
Post by Joe Scotch
which if I wanted that, I'd use Acrylic DNS instead (or
maybe just the MVP Hosts file).
Neither of those replace the functionality of Adblock Plus.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:47 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by Joe Scotch
Everyone thinks AdBlock is Jesus Christ incarnate, but it's just a
host-file blocker - <snip>
That's incorrect. You can use it that way, but it definitely isn't "just
a host-file blocker".
Post by Joe Scotch
which if I wanted that, I'd use Acrylic DNS instead (or
maybe just the MVP Hosts file).
Neither of those replace the functionality of Adblock Plus.
Thanks for that correction.

To my credit, I did Google for what AdBlock does, and I already posted the
NY Times article about it where even its own owners said it's badly named
for what it does.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/19/business/media/adblock-plus-created-to-protect-users-from-ads-opens-the-door.html

Here's a direct quote, which shows that its value equation is confusing:
"It's just the words we use for it that are confusing people,"
Ben Williams, director of communications and operations at Eyeo,
said in an interview. "We are called Adblock Plus, and for branding
reasons, we are not going to call ourselves something different.
But if we could, we would call ourselves something like 'web
customizer,' because that's really what we want to do for our users."

The entire article explains more about the confusion, since AdBlock gets
its revenue from whitelisting ads in the first place.

Nonetheless, confusion aside, AdBlock doesn't do 9 tenths of what New Pipe
does, even as it "might" do the most important 1 tenth that New Pipe does,
which is block inline inside-the-video ads.

And yet, nobody yet has actually confirmed the answer to this question,
where the question has to be asked because people are watching YouTube
inside of a browser it seems (which is odd but that's what they do) and
where browsers have *lots* of different types of ads.

Q: Does AdBlock block the inside-the-video inline video ads on YouTube?
M.L.
2018-01-02 10:38:11 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Q: Does AdBlock block the inside-the-video inline video ads on YouTube?
Can't say for sure, but I know that the MVP hosts file blocks all
youTube ads in all my browsers.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 19:54:45 UTC
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-01-01 08:30:53 UTC
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In message <p2bd7o$24q$***@dont-email.me>, Joe Scotch <***@aol.com>
writes:
[]
Post by Joe Scotch
C:] youtube-dl.exe -f 18 {URL}
I find my browser addon (I use downloadhelper) easier to use than that
commandline would be (especially if I want to change the download target
location) ...
Post by Joe Scotch
C:] youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 {URL}
...though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
anyone?). Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?
[]
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Veni, Vidi, Vera (I came, I saw, we'll meet again) - Mik from S+AS Limited
(***@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998
Mayayana
2018-01-01 14:20:24 UTC
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-***@255soft.uk> wrote

| ...though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
| handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
| anyone?).

I think it's on the menu but requires installing
an external extractor. DH doesn't provide that
functionality natively.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-01-02 01:11:29 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
| ...though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
| handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
| anyone?).
I think it's on the menu but requires installing
an external extractor. DH doesn't provide that
functionality natively.
Thanks. (I did play with the external extractor a few years ago, but use
afterwards-extractors these days.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I remember a lot of questions on a vocalist forum about the problems singing
"There is a balm in Gilead" without making it sound like a security alert. -
Linda Fox in UMRA, 2010-11-19
Mayayana
2018-01-01 14:26:15 UTC
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-***@255soft.uk> wrote

| Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
| that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?

It looks like there's a one-piece Windows version here:

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html

It needs VC++ 2010 runtime. But it's not GUI.
Wikipedia says there are frontends available, but
doesn't provide links. Typical OSS: Great idea.
Probably great functionality. Detestable usability
limited to DOS-esque command lines that were
outmoded 25 years ago.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:43 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
| Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
| that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
It needs VC++ 2010 runtime. But it's not GUI.
Wikipedia says there are frontends available, but
doesn't provide links. Typical OSS: Great idea.
Probably great functionality. Detestable usability
limited to DOS-esque command lines that were
outmoded 25 years ago.
Since I always give back, in detail, for any help, here is a tutorial that
should work for anyone.

You should be able to cut and paste the steps and get going in minutes.
If not, please tell me what I need to correct!

1. Choose any test video that you know will have slipstream ads inside it.
(Happy New Year 2018)

2. Obtain the latest ffmpeg if you don't have it (you'll need ffprobe.exe).
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

This is the one I used:

http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-20170711-0780ad9-win64-static.zip

3. You'll only need ffmpeg if you want to extract audio.
I put the three ffmpeg executables in the current directory.
However you can add them to your path if you like.
AFAIK, you only need 1 of the 3 ffmpeg executables (ffprobe.exe).

cmd> copy c:\path\ffmpeg\bin\ffprobe.exe .\ffprobe.exe
(Or just put the extracted c:\path\ffmpeg\bin\ in your PATH variable.)

If you get these errors when running the youtube extractor, it's the
path:
"writing DASH m4a. Only some players support this container. "
"Install ffmpeg or avconv to fix this automatically."

4. Obtain the latest working youtube-dl.exe (get the right one!)

This is the one I use because it works and doesn't require python!
From: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe
Size: 7760634 bytes (7 MB)
SHA256: C0396D47480D7C9A14464A8E51E79993F88BD76D6BCFDB11312EFD0D88F3C5C7

5. Doublecheck that the basics are working fine & that you're up to date:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe --version
Initially reported:
2017.07.15

So I updated it:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -U
Which reported:
Updating to version 2017.12.31 ...
Waiting for file handle to be closed ...
Updated youtube-dl to version 2017.12.31.

Testing it again:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -U
Now reports:
youtube-dl is up-to-date (2017.12.31)

And doublechecking the version:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe --version
Now reports:
2017.12.31

Optionally, output the manpage:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -h > youtube-dl.man.txt
cmd> type youtube-dl.man.txt | more

6. Run the command below to download any YouTube video as an mp4:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -f 18 http://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Extracting video information
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading MPD manifest
[download] Destination: Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.mp4
[download] 100% of 3.44MiB in 00:01

cmd> dir
30-Dec-17 10:14 AM 3,602,418 Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.mp4

Note that you can actually add the ads as this is an option!
--include-ads (Download advertisements as well)

7. Now try to extract the audio as an opus file:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -x http://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Extracting video information
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading MPD manifest
[download] Destination: Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a
[download] 100% of 621.97KiB in 00:00
[ffmpeg] Correcting container in "Happy New Year
2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a"
[ffmpeg] Post-process file Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a
exists, skipping

8. Try to extract the audio as an m4a format file:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -f 140 http://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading video info webpage
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Extracting video information
[youtube] n6eXtBbhpYg: Downloading MPD manifest
[download] Happy New Year 2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a has already been
downloaded
[download] 100% of 621.52KiB
[ffmpeg] Correcting container in "Happy New Year
2018-n6eXtBbhpYg.m4a"

9. In summary, these two commands are the ones most used:
Video download:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -f 140 http://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg
Audio extraction:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -f 140 http://youtu.be/n6eXtBbhpYg

10. Addendum: I do not use this implementation of the same name!
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl.exe
Referenced in https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/download.html
(This implementation failed on the harder test videos.)
Addendum: I do not use the all-in-1 GUI which failed on my harder
tests.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/youtube-dl-gtk/

Please let me know if you use these steps what I need to fix.
I tested every step so it "should" work for you, cut and paste.
Diesel
2018-01-02 00:16:25 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Since I always give back, in detail, for any help, here is a
tutorial that should work for anyone.
Your tutorial is no doubt very useful to some. But, I found an
excellent plugin for the firefox browser which tends to require no real
effort on my part to grab the video/audio I want without having to jump
thru any hoops or install additional software. I've yet to run across a
video/audio file it can't pull a local copy of for me, and, it's not
specific to youtube. Not only does it do a fantastic job of getting me
exactly what I want, there's no slipstreamed advertising or re-encoding
required on my part. It pulls the specific video in the format I want
(if multiple formats of the video are available) without having to
transcode, re-encode or strip anything. And, it's able to pull at the
speed I'd normally directly download a file with too. IE: much faster
than watching said video.

https://flashgot.net/

It can do it with the browsers built in downloading code, or, if you
have one or more supported download managers, pass it along to them. I
actually have orbit on this machine (it's not freeware or wasn't when I
obtained it) and I can switch over to it if I'd prefer, but, I rarely
find a need to do so.
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 01:21:48 UTC
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Post by Diesel
I've yet to run across a
video/audio file it can't pull a local copy of for me,
Try this video which had been posted before as a "harder" one to download:

Post by Diesel
and, it's not specific to youtube.
You bring up a good point, where I also believe the youtube downloader
executable I use is not specific to YouTube.
M.L.
2018-01-02 11:25:21 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by Diesel
I've yet to run across a
video/audio file it can't pull a local copy of for me,
http://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
4K Video Downloader had no problem downloading that Taylor Swift
video.
Diesel
2018-01-03 02:37:37 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by Diesel
I've yet to run across a
video/audio file it can't pull a local copy of for me,
http://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
I'm really not a taylor swift fan. [g] But, I've got it, no issues.

Course, I do have other downloading options in the event I find one
that isn't friendly to what I'm doing. rarely need to use them though.
Post by Joe Scotch
Post by Diesel
and, it's not specific to youtube.
You bring up a good point, where I also believe the youtube
downloader executable I use is not specific to YouTube.
i don't think it is, but, cannot confirm that. I don't use it.
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Diesel
2018-01-02 00:16:25 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
It needs VC++ 2010 runtime. But it's not GUI.
Wikipedia says there are frontends available, but
doesn't provide links. Typical OSS: Great idea.
Probably great functionality. Detestable usability
limited to DOS-esque command lines that were
outmoded 25 years ago.
the command line isn't outdated. It's still quite useful and very
handy. In some instances you can do more quicker with the console than
you can with the mouse. It's just not for everyone.
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Mayayana
2018-01-02 01:07:38 UTC
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"Diesel" <***@privacy.net> wrote

| the command line isn't outdated. It's still quite useful and very
| handy. In some instances you can do more quicker with the console than
| you can with the mouse. It's just not for everyone.
|

I click the DownloadHelper icon on the Firefox
toolbar. The alternative with youtube-dl
is to open a console window, type the incantation,
then copy and paste the URL from Firefox or
whatever other source. Then where did it download
the file to? Who knows? I'll have to read the vast
command line switch docs to figure that out.

It's ridiculous. If some people are still fond
of conole that's OK, but they're not just
fond of it. Console is a retro fetish. The result
is that the 95% of people who want things
simple and easy are out of luck. There's just
no excuse for not making a GUI version these
days. Command line should be the afterthought,
the custom version for the few people who
want it.

By not creating a GUI version a large
percentage of people are blocked from being
able to use the software at all. It's just too
technically challenging. The reaction from the
console fetishists is that those people are suffering
justly due to their own stupidity.

I have no trouble figuring out a console program,
but unless it's absolutely the only option I never
will. For the same reason that I use a key to start
my car and haven't built in a crank to use instead.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 01:28:38 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
I have no trouble figuring out a console program,
but unless it's absolutely the only option I never
will. For the same reason that I use a key to start
my car and haven't built in a crank to use instead.
I'm with you in that I *prefer* an all-in-one GUI.

The only problem is that I couldn't get the youtube downloader all-in-one
gui to work for me so I gave up since the cost of freeware is measured in
failed tests.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/youtube-dl-gtk/

So I just use the command line, where I only run one of these two commands:

Video download as MP4:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -f 18 http://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw
Audio extraction as M4A:
cmd> youtube-dl.exe -f 140 http://youtu.be/VuNIsY6JdUw

PS: I have no idea what the numbers mean as it only matters that it works.
Gene Wirchenko
2018-01-02 18:36:40 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 20:07:38 -0500, "Mayayana"
Post by Mayayana
| the command line isn't outdated. It's still quite useful and very
| handy. In some instances you can do more quicker with the console than
| you can with the mouse. It's just not for everyone.
|
I click the DownloadHelper icon on the Firefox
toolbar. The alternative with youtube-dl
is to open a console window, type the incantation,
then copy and paste the URL from Firefox or
whatever other source. Then where did it download
the file to? Who knows? I'll have to read the vast
command line switch docs to figure that out.
You can read, right?

It can easily be the same way with a GUI system. Where did the
GUI program stick the file?
Post by Mayayana
It's ridiculous. If some people are still fond
of conole that's OK, but they're not just
fond of it. Console is a retro fetish. The result
is that the 95% of people who want things
simple and easy are out of luck. There's just
no excuse for not making a GUI version these
days. Command line should be the afterthought,
the custom version for the few people who
want it.
Nope.

If I am creating a program, I will be working on implementing the
algorithm first. If I can get that going, then I work on the user
interface. If I can not get the basic program going, then the user
interface is irrelevant.

Command line is very useful. There are many things that I use it
for that a GUI would make quite awkward.

I use both command line and GUI. I like having more than one
tool.
Post by Mayayana
By not creating a GUI version a large
percentage of people are blocked from being
able to use the software at all. It's just too
technically challenging. The reaction from the
console fetishists is that those people are suffering
justly due to their own stupidity.
Some people do. I do not.

There is a lot of promotion of how difficult it is to use the
command line. Consequently, some people never look.
Post by Mayayana
I have no trouble figuring out a console program,
but unless it's absolutely the only option I never
will. For the same reason that I use a key to start
my car and haven't built in a crank to use instead.
I will use a useful tool regardless of how old (or unfashionable
or ...) it might be.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Mayayana
2018-01-02 20:07:19 UTC
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"Gene Wirchenko" <***@telus.net> wrote

|> I'll have to read the vast
| >command line switch docs to figure that out.
|
| It can easily be the same way with a GUI system. Where did the
| GUI program stick the file?
|

No, that's one of the points of GUI. If it's designed
intuitively and follows standards then most of it is
self-explanatory. I download a video in Firefox by
clicking an icon. There's nothing to read. For console
I need to study the various incantations and make sure
I get the spaces/switches right. youtube-dl has *a lot*
of them.

Even just a slight wrapper, like an HTA or VBScript,
could make the whole thing a lot easier. Copy the
Firefox URL, double-click a script, paste the URL in and
click, having already pre-coded all the required command
line mess. (If I had any use for youtube-dl that's what
I'd do before I started using it.)

| If I am creating a program, I will be working on implementing the
| algorithm first. If I can get that going, then I work on the user
| interface. If I can not get the basic program going, then the user
| interface is irrelevant.
|

Obviously. If your code doesn't work then
neither command line nor UI will help. :)

But if you have something worth
putting together then part of the job is to
plan the best way to present it. It's not
easy making a really good UI design that's
intuitive. But it makes a big difference if one
uses the software often. Console is OK for
a one-time operation. That's what it's for.
But if you want to open files 200 times you
want a menu in a GUI. Why be limited to
1980 technology? If you're really going
to do the job right the GUI should accomodate
drag/drop, so I can just drag a file into the
window -- or onto a script -- and not have
to type a path.

Unfortunately, the OSS people are often
hardcore geeks who code well but don't relate
well to humans. Many of them take pride in
not writing docs, as though that were a job
for some kind of cleanup lackeys who they
expect to be following behind them. And many
like the obstacle of command line. They don't
want unappreciative civilians easily enjoying
their work. They want to share it with peers --
incantation-typing geeks in dark cellars who
will appreciate it.
Linux, GIMP, 7-Zip and so many more programs
are typical examples: The stability is there but
not the usability.

| There is a lot of promotion of how difficult it is to use the
| command line. Consequently, some people never look.

Why would anyone look if they don't have to?
What typical task on a modern computer is better
done with command line? Especially for someone
who's not used to it? Explorer wasn't invented
for kicks. It was invented because typing all those
lines is a pain in the neck. BAT and script files
exist for the same reason: If you have to do it
more than once or twice it's worth automating.

I'll use command line if
I have to. The last time I can remember actually
needing it was when I moved XP to a dual-core CPU
from single core and had to swap out hal.dll. A one-
time job. A rare task. A convoluted command string.
But that was OK because it's one-time. I don't
expect Microsoft to make a hal.dll swapout UI
program. But a program for downloading videos,
maybe daily? Yes, I expect a UI.
Gene Wirchenko
2018-01-03 17:41:26 UTC
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On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 15:07:19 -0500, "Mayayana"
Post by Mayayana
|> I'll have to read the vast
| >command line switch docs to figure that out.
|
| It can easily be the same way with a GUI system. Where did the
| GUI program stick the file?
No, that's one of the points of GUI. If it's designed
intuitively and follows standards then most of it is
self-explanatory. I download a video in Firefox by
clicking an icon. There's nothing to read. For console
I need to study the various incantations and make sure
I get the spaces/switches right. youtube-dl has *a lot*
of them.
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do *NOT* know where it puts it.

GUI can be just as obtuse as CUI.
Post by Mayayana
Even just a slight wrapper, like an HTA or VBScript,
could make the whole thing a lot easier. Copy the
Firefox URL, double-click a script, paste the URL in and
click, having already pre-coded all the required command
line mess. (If I had any use for youtube-dl that's what
I'd do before I started using it.)
| If I am creating a program, I will be working on implementing the
| algorithm first. If I can get that going, then I work on the user
| interface. If I can not get the basic program going, then the user
| interface is irrelevant.
Obviously. If your code doesn't work then
neither command line nor UI will help. :)
But if you have something worth
putting together then part of the job is to
plan the best way to present it. It's not
easy making a really good UI design that's
intuitive. But it makes a big difference if one
uses the software often. Console is OK for
a one-time operation. That's what it's for.
But if you want to open files 200 times you
want a menu in a GUI. Why be limited to
1980 technology? If you're really going
to do the job right the GUI should accomodate
drag/drop, so I can just drag a file into the
window -- or onto a script -- and not have
to type a path.
Ah, but I can and do create batch files to automate a lot of
that. I have not seen a good system for that for GUI.
Post by Mayayana
Unfortunately, the OSS people are often
hardcore geeks who code well but don't relate
well to humans. Many of them take pride in
not writing docs, as though that were a job
for some kind of cleanup lackeys who they
expect to be following behind them. And many
like the obstacle of command line. They don't
want unappreciative civilians easily enjoying
their work. They want to share it with peers --
incantation-typing geeks in dark cellars who
will appreciate it.
Linux, GIMP, 7-Zip and so many more programs
are typical examples: The stability is there but
not the usability.
Windows.
Post by Mayayana
| There is a lot of promotion of how difficult it is to use the
| command line. Consequently, some people never look.
Why would anyone look if they don't have to?
I should have gone further. They do not look, *AND* they repeat
the statement that command line is so difficult.
Post by Mayayana
What typical task on a modern computer is better
done with command line? Especially for someone
who's not used to it? Explorer wasn't invented
for kicks. It was invented because typing all those
lines is a pain in the neck. BAT and script files
exist for the same reason: If you have to do it
more than once or twice it's worth automating.
Yup.
Post by Mayayana
I'll use command line if
I have to. The last time I can remember actually
needing it was when I moved XP to a dual-core CPU
from single core and had to swap out hal.dll. A one-
time job. A rare task. A convoluted command string.
But that was OK because it's one-time. I don't
expect Microsoft to make a hal.dll swapout UI
program. But a program for downloading videos,
maybe daily? Yes, I expect a UI.
Command line *is* a UI. There are cases where it is better.
There are cases where GUI is better. There are cases where it does
not matter much.

I use both according to circumstances. Typically, I use a
command line for programmer-type stuff and GUI for end-user-type
stuff, but the demarcation is not absolute.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 19:59:45 UTC
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Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do *NOT* know where it puts it.
GUI can be just as obtuse as CUI.
I also always have all my browsers set to ASK where to download since I put
different things in different places and there is a place for everything
before I download it.

I think I had to implement a hack in Edge to get it to ask ... let me look
... nope ... the hack is just to let me put everything in a place of my
choosing - but it's only one place.

So, other than Edge, all the other browsers have a switch to just ASK where
you want to put each file (which is exactly what I want since each file has
a separate place it belongs).
Mayayana
2018-01-03 23:01:49 UTC
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"Joe Scotch" <***@aol.com> wrote
So, other than Edge, all the other browsers have a switch to just ASK where
you want to put each file (which is exactly what I want since each file has
a separate place it belongs).
MS software tends to be that way, assuming that
most people will never figure out the file system so
files should be put into the personal docs folder.
Also, most corporate employees will have no choice.
They don't have permission anywhere else. The down
side is that it creates a high bar for figuring things
out. As any MS Word user where they keep their
DOCs. Most will say, "I don't know, but Word knows." :)
Wolf K
2018-01-03 22:11:59 UTC
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On 2018-01-03 12:41, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]

Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
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Paul
2018-01-03 22:58:03 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)

This is why they can't find it on their own.

The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.

It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.

After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.

When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.

*******

And at least a couple browsers, offer access to things
from the URL bar.

about:this
about:that

Firefox has

about:plugins
about:config <=== *Danger. No Undo!!! Do not delete entries in there*

Chrome is even more "generous", Easter Egg Heaven.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/hidden-chrome-urls

chrome://plugins
chrome://flags

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/google-chrome-flag-settings-windows

It's a good thing modern users enjoy "treasure hunts".

HTH,
Paul
Char Jackson
2018-01-04 07:04:06 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)
This is why they can't find it on their own.
The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.
It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.
After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.
When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.
Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.

I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.
Paul
2018-01-04 08:23:47 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by Paul
Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)
This is why they can't find it on their own.
The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.
It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.
After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.
When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.
Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.
I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.
This could be true.

However, for me, once the Menu Bar is exposed, it's
a "feeling of relief at seeing something familiar".
I know that two or three "menu probes" and it will
all come back to me. Even if they've moved a bit
of the furniture to further their own objectives.

Paul
Char Jackson
2018-01-04 15:58:07 UTC
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Post by Paul
Post by Char Jackson
Post by Paul
Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
You're forgetting (I do this all the time), that
some users aren't even aware there is a "menu bar" :-)
This is why they can't find it on their own.
The missing step, for those playing along at home, is to
make a right-click on the top of the Firefox window, and
the right-click menu offers a "Menu Bar" item. When you
select that, a return visit later will have a tick box
indicating you're enabled the Menu Bar at the top of the
window. Note that the entire surface of the top bar is
not "active", so you have to move the mouse around and
try a few times, until you hit the ticklish spot.
It's the modern "Easter Egg" design method for GUIs.
After you've done that, you can follow Wolfs path-to-victory.
When I offer Firefox help, I get this all the time.
"What menu bar are you talking about?" :-) Well, there
is one. You just have to play peek-a-boo with the interface
to get it.
Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.
I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.
This could be true.
However, for me, once the Menu Bar is exposed, it's
a "feeling of relief at seeing something familiar".
I know that two or three "menu probes" and it will
all come back to me. Even if they've moved a bit
of the furniture to further their own objectives.
I meant to add that pressing the Alt key will temporarily unhide the
menu bar if it's normally hidden. Press Alt a second time to hide it
again.

That's ticklish too, though. What's intuitive about pressing Alt to see
a menu bar? I don't even understand the purpose of being able to hide
the menu bar on a PC platform. Is that a carryover from the phablet
ecosystem, where screen real estate is at a premium?
Mayayana
2018-01-04 14:48:05 UTC
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"Char Jackson" <***@none.invalid> wrote

| Another way to get to the Options page in Firefox is to click the
| 'hamburger' icon and select Options from the little window that opens.
| Phone users will know what the hamburger looks like.
|
| I *think* that's always available, and without any ticklish tricks.
|

That's another kind of ticklish trick. It's disastrous
design in that there's nothing intuitive, or even
attention-getting, about the hamburger icon. It's
just a misguided streamlining fetish. The same thing
on webpages makes them break completely without
javascript, yet serves no useful purpose.
Gene Wirchenko
2018-01-04 17:46:47 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
I have mine set to ask me, but there is a default, and I do not
know what it is in the sense that I would not know where to look if I
did not specify the directory.

I download to various locations depending on the item.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Char Jackson
2018-01-04 19:00:17 UTC
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Post by Gene Wirchenko
Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
I have mine set to ask me, but there is a default, and I do not
know what it is in the sense that I would not know where to look if I
did not specify the directory.
You'd simply go look at the default. ;-)
Post by Gene Wirchenko
I download to various locations depending on the item.
Same here, but I know what my default save location is and I sometimes
use it.
Paul
2018-01-04 20:00:16 UTC
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Post by Gene Wirchenko
Post by Wolf K
[...]
Post by Gene Wirchenko
When I download in Firefox, I always specify the destination.
Otherwise, I do*NOT* know where it puts it.
[...]
Tools - Options - General - Downloads - Save Files To...
I have mine set to ask me, but there is a default, and I do not
know what it is in the sense that I would not know where to look if I
did not specify the directory.
I download to various locations depending on the item.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
The first things I do after a browser install:

1) Change the home page away from the initial value.
I like about:plugins, because it is just some text
on the screen.

2) Set the Download directory.

It wouldn't do for me to suddenly start using
My Documents or Documents for a download. What
an outrage :-) I want <custom location> for
all my seekrets.

I don't sort files into folders. I tag them by
changing the file name, and adding terms that
I think I will remember later. Then use the
search, insert a tag or two, and find it
that way when required. When I have too many
PDF files in my download area, I make a folder
"PDF9" and put another couple hundred in there,
complete with their tags. They're still not sorted,
and each PDF folder is like a "rail car" sitting
on a siding. The reason for not putting them in
a single folder, is to avoid collisions when
moving bunches of files. I may download a file
more than once (accidental duplication).

I only have around 10,000 PDFs on here.

Paul
Joe Scotch
2018-01-05 03:08:05 UTC
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1) Change the home page away from the initial value.
I like about:plugins, because it is just some text
on the screen.
I do the same, only I change the default to:
Chrome: chrome://settings/clearBrowserData
Opera: opera://settings/clearBrowserData
Firefox: about:preferences#privacy
etc.

BTW, if you can figure out how to make the Firefox URL the link that is
titled "about:preferences#privacy", you'll be my hero!

And yes, I know about incongnito mode - which I use also with shortcuts.
Chrome: Target: C:\path\chrome.exe --incognito
Opera: Target: "C:\path\opera\launcher.exe" -private
Firefox: Target: "C:\path\firefox.exe" -private
etc. (Note the quotes matter where they are and where they're not.)

Microsoft Edge is a whole 'nother beast!
<https://www.digitalcitizen.life/create-shortcuts-start-any-browser-private-or-incognito-browsing>
Post by Paul
2) Set the Download directory.
I set it to always ask because just as screwdrivers go in either the
flathead or phillips or torx drawers while nutdrivers and wrenches and
pliers go elsewhere, each document has a folder where it belongs.

This location where it belongs is determined decades ago, and while, like
my closet, the document locations are constantly being organized, the
basics (shirts, shoes, pants, socks, jackets, suits, belts, etc.) never
change.
Post by Paul
It wouldn't do for me to suddenly start using
My Documents or Documents for a download. What
an outrage :-) I want <custom location> for
all my seekrets.
There are fundamentally two models:
1. Put it anywhere and let a search find it
2. Put it where it belongs.

Do you run a search every time you need a #20 Torx screwdriver?
Or does it have a place and it's in that place right now?
Post by Paul
I don't sort files into folders. I tag them by
changing the file name, and adding terms that
I think I will remember later. Then use the
search, insert a tag or two, and find it
that way when required.
OK. So you use the "search" method.
That's fine - as long as you like that method.

I hate it - personally - where I consider that a "search" is an admission
of failure - and - proudly - I can state that I can't even search on my
Windows machine because I somehow turned that off.

I turned off almost everythign in Cortana and in privacy settings - one of
which is the ability to search.

So, once in a while, I have to actually run a search by hand! Yuck.
Try this. It's not fun! :)
dir c:\* /s/a/l/on/b > c:\temp\mysearch.txt

Too bad Windows doesn't have a native grep.
Char Jackson
2018-01-05 03:34:10 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
So, once in a while, I have to actually run a search by hand! Yuck.
Try this. It's not fun! :)
dir c:\* /s/a/l/on/b > c:\temp\mysearch.txt
Too bad Windows doesn't have a native grep.
It does. Only a Windows expert will be able to use it.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-06 17:24:12 UTC
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Post by Char Jackson
Post by Joe Scotch
So, once in a while, I have to actually run a search by hand! Yuck.
Try this. It's not fun! :)
dir c:\* /s/a/l/on/b > c:\temp\mysearch.txt
Too bad Windows doesn't have a native grep.
It does. Only a Windows expert will be able to use it.
That's what I meant by "native" (in that it's not that Windows "shell"
stuff).

For example, we all used Cygwin years ago, but most of us (at least I did),
simply gave up when we went from machine to machine.

Literally, it's easier to just install VirtualBox and Ubuntu, and then use
a "real" grep on the file, since you can share files across the
virtualization.

So, I grep on Windows using a "native" grep on the Ubuntu virtual machine.
Gene Wirchenko
2018-01-05 18:02:36 UTC
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2018 03:08:05 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch <***@aol.com>
wrote:

[snip]
Post by Joe Scotch
So, once in a while, I have to actually run a search by hand! Yuck.
Try this. It's not fun! :)
dir c:\* /s/a/l/on/b > c:\temp\mysearch.txt
Too bad Windows doesn't have a native grep.
You could pipe the dir to find. find is quite limited compared
with grep though.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Joe Scotch
2018-01-06 17:26:23 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
dir c:\* /s/a/l/on/b > c:\temp\mysearch.txt
Too bad Windows doesn't have a native grep.
You could pipe the dir to find. find is quite limited compared
with grep though.
Yes. I used to try all that.

The *one* UNIX command that works *perfectly* on Windows is *sort*!

For example, in vi (or vim), you can sort anything easily:
:!sort

Or from mark a to mark b:
:'a,'b!sort

Where the bang (!) means "run" so "!sort" means "run the sort command".

I repeat: The sort command is as *fantastic* on Windows as on Linux.
Diesel
2018-01-03 02:37:36 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
| the command line isn't outdated. It's still quite useful and very
| handy. In some instances you can do more quicker with the console
| than you can with the mouse. It's just not for everyone.
|
I click the DownloadHelper icon on the Firefox
toolbar. The alternative with youtube-dl
is to open a console window, type the incantation,
then copy and paste the URL from Firefox or
whatever other source. Then where did it download
the file to? Who knows? I'll have to read the vast
command line switch docs to figure that out.
Unless otherwise specified, it's most likely going to be stored in
the folder from which you executed the program from. That's usually
the case. And, incidently, I didn't recommend any console based
downloader for video/audio leeching. I recommended a friendly plugin
for firefox; nice little 'gui' based thing. No promises it works with
the latest POS mozilla released as I don't run that on this machine,
because I like the plugins I have.
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2018-01-03 20:06:04 UTC
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Post by Diesel
Unless otherwise specified, it's most likely going to be stored in
the folder from which you executed the program from. That's usually
the case. And, incidently, I didn't recommend any console based
downloader for video/audio leeching. I recommended a friendly plugin
for firefox; nice little 'gui' based thing. No promises it works with
the latest POS mozilla released as I don't run that on this machine,
because I like the plugins I have.
I must agree with you that the youtube downloader I use puts the results in
the current working directory. Sigh.

You'd think with a billion options, one of them would be for where the
output should go.

Looking at the manpage, it has "--ouput TEMPLATE", where the template
template format is a mystery to me as of this date.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:44 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I find my browser addon (I use downloadhelper) easier to use than that
commandline would be (especially if I want to change the download target
location) ...
If you look at the man page for the video extractor I use, it has lots of
options which you might not have in the web browswer method, such as
downloading all the videos given a text file playlist, for example.

But to your point, wouldn't a simple Windows file redirect work?
It's a single additional character ">" if it does.

Let me try that for you.
Let's take an arbitrary video (short for test purposes).

Click... click...


OK. It didn't work. It just put text-based stderr into the output file.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Joe Scotch
C:] youtube-dl.exe -x --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 {URL}
...though I admit a single-stage dowbload-and-audio-extract would be
handy (unless downloadhelper has a switch of which I'm unaware -
anyone?). Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?
Yes. There is a GUI. I don't use the GUI, but there is a GUI.

The confusion is that if you don't know which to use, you spend all your
time figuring it out as there are at least *four* different
youtube-dl-stuff implementations, each with different requirements where
two of the implementations have the exact same name (but they have greatly
different requirements!).

I don't use it, but this is the all-in-one GUI:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/youtube-dl-gtk/

This is the command line one that I use:
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe

If you don't already have ffmpeg, you'll need it for the one that I use:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

For example, this is the ffmpeg version that I'm using:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-20170711-0780ad9-win64-static.zip

The youtube download executables I would *not* use are these:
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl.exe (requires python)
https://yt-dl.org/downloads/2017.07.15/youtube-dl (also requires python)

If you need more help, I have written a tutorial that you can just cut and
paste and follow as I have written tens of thousands of them because I
write them every time I install anything.
M.L.
2018-01-02 10:49:00 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?
youtube-dlG frontend (portable)
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui

youtube-dl-gui 1.52 (portable)
https://www.videohelp.com/software/youtube-dl-gui

yaYTDLFrontend (java portable)
https://bitbucket.org/qwertz19281/yaytdlfrontend/src
Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 20:11:37 UTC
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Post by M.L.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Is there a GUI for this "youtube-dl.exe" that would save all
that typing (especially with the addition of destination specification)?
youtube-dlG frontend (portable)
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
youtube-dl-gui 1.52 (portable)
https://www.videohelp.com/software/youtube-dl-gui
yaYTDLFrontend (java portable)
https://bitbucket.org/qwertz19281/yaytdlfrontend/src
Thanks for the URLs of those youtube downloader GUIs.

The problem (for me) with those GUIs (which is stated elsewhere in this
thread), is that they require Python or Java, neither of which I want on my
system.

However, for others who aren't allergic to Python and Java, they are
probably perfectly workable GUIs.

Thanks for increasing the tribal knowledge of the group with actual URLs.
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2017-12-31 07:23:16 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/open-source-youtube-app-android/>
The NewPipe open source software on F-Droid is basically YouTube on
steroids, where it searches, views, plays, extracts, downloads, etc.,
youtube videos without any advertisements.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/>
How do you stop in-video advertisement? :)

Does this app know how to do that?
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2017-12-31 15:50:10 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
How do you stop in-video advertisement? :)
This is a *great* question!

I do not know *how* they stop *all* the in-video advertisements but they do
stop them. You can play, play, play, play, play, to your heart's content,
and you will *never* see any in-video advertisements.
<https://newpipe.schabi.org>

The open-source page on New Pipe says they only use the public YouTube API
so the API must be what is used to play those annoying in-video ads.
<https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe>
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Does this app know how to do that?
Yes. You will *never* see an in-video ad when you use the New Pipe player,
but it's even better than that as New Pipe allows you to use *any* player
you want - and you *still* don't see any in-video ads.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/>

Since they use the youtube public API, there must be a way in the public
api to play those annoying in-video ads - where apparently New Pipe doesn't
do it. The good news is that the New Pipe open source code is constantly
improving - so it should be ready for Windows by now.
<https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues>

The code is open source so if you know how to read code (I don't), you can
see exactly how the New Pipe core extractor works.
<https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor>

Why can't the open-source New Pipe code be compiled for Windows?
<https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe>
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2017-12-31 16:51:35 UTC
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I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of advertisements!

Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)
Post by Joe Scotch
The open-source page on New Pipe says they only use the public YouTube API
so the API must be what is used to play those annoying in-video ads.
<https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe>
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Does this app know how to do that?
Yes. You will *never* see an in-video ad when you use the New Pipe player,
but it's even better than that as New Pipe allows you to use *any* player
you want - and you *still* don't see any in-video ads.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/>
Since they use the youtube public API, there must be a way in the public
api to play those annoying in-video ads - where apparently New Pipe doesn't
do it. The good news is that the New Pipe open source code is constantly
improving - so it should be ready for Windows by now.
<https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues>
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2017-12-31 16:53:32 UTC
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I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of advertisements!
Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)
Remember how sponsors announce themselves in Hollywood movies?
Remember those advertisement signs in basketball or soccer matches?
How do you block them? :)
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Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 17:24:10 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Remember how sponsors announce themselves in Hollywood movies?
Remember those advertisement signs in basketball or soccer matches?
How do you block them? :)
Now you're just getting ridiculous.

Your other question is a *great* question, which is how does New Pipe block
what you call 'slipstream' video ads.

Your other cynicism is also valid which is why hasn't Google blocked them
yet, even though New Pipe code is open source and even though New Pipe has
been around for *years*?

I don't know the answer to either of your great questions.

It's also valid that two people here (John Doe & Mark Lloyd) have inferred
that Adblock does everything that New Pipe does which is:
1. Blocks all slipstream video ads
2. Extracts audio from the video and saves it on your computer
3. Extracts the video and saves it on your computer
4. Plays using any video player you want it to play on
5. Searches YouTube videos and plays with the screen off
etc.

The only thing I'm waiting for is confirmation from either John Doe and
Mark Lloyd as to whether Adblock does all that which they imply it does.
Diesel
2018-01-02 00:16:26 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Remember how sponsors announce themselves in Hollywood movies?
Remember those advertisement signs in basketball or soccer
matches? How do you block them? :)
Now you're just getting ridiculous.
Your other question is a *great* question, which is how does New
Pipe block what you call 'slipstream' video ads.
Your other cynicism is also valid which is why hasn't Google
blocked them yet, even though New Pipe code is open source and
even though New Pipe has been around for *years*?
I don't know the answer to either of your great questions.
The short answer is...

the application would have to catch the switch and ignore the stream
until the advertising video has finished playing, and then resume
capture once youtube restarts the stream you thought you were
watching the entire time. There's a bit more going on behind the
scenes than your browser or youtube is showing you. It's not really
slipstreamed into the video you selected to watch; the advertising is
actually a seperate file and when in streaming mode, you're giving
youtube the opportunity to pause the video you wanted to watch and
stream some advertising your way.

You can observe this not occuring by using this plugin:

https://flashgot.net/

Further, when you do see your video switch to advertising, you can
use the same plugin and see for yourself that the advertising isn't
part of your video, it's actually another file entirely AND you can
opt to download it too, if you wanted.
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Post by Diesel
Further, when you do see your video switch to advertising, you can
use the same plugin and see for yourself that the advertising isn't
part of your video, it's actually another file entirely AND you can
opt to download it too, if you wanted.
Thanks for the clarification as that explains also how the youtube
downloader does it.

This gets the video sans slipstream:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 http://the-url-goes-here

This adds the slipstream advertisement:
youtube-dl.exe -f 18 --include-ads http://the-url-goes-here

Although I can't imagine anyone wanting to use that switch.
Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 17:24:16 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of advertisements!
Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)
Let's try to stay on topic.

The topic is:
Does anyone know of this slipstream-ad-free functionality on Windows?

[NOTE: Two people implied Adblock blocks those slipstream ads - but nobody
who implied it has answered the direct question yet and they haven't said
how Adblock extracts the audio from the video or how Adblock downloads the
video in its entirety (even if it's 3 hours long).]

Your question is *great* which is *how* New Pipe blocks what you call
slipstream ads.

I don't know how. But they do.

I also get your cynicism that Google could block New Pipe since it directly
competes with YouTube Red features.

However, the fact is that NewPipe is *years* old.

The fact is that if Google wanted to kill them - it wouldn't take years for
Google to block them - would it?

Let's try to stay on topic where I will answer your questions as best I
can.

The on-topic perfectly valid question here is whether or not a New Pipe
functionality exists on Windows yet - and how hard would it be for a coder
to compile the code on Windows since it's all Open Source Code?
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-01 04:45:10 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Let's try to stay on topic.
Does anyone know of this slipstream-ad-free functionality on Windows?
[NOTE: Two people implied Adblock blocks those slipstream ads - but nobody
who implied it has answered the direct question yet and they haven't said
how Adblock extracts the audio from the video or how Adblock downloads the
video in its entirety (even if it's 3 hours long).]
OK, let me find out whether YouTube is being honest by declaring in the
video stream that an advertisement has started. Notice the orange strips
in the video's skip bar.
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 06:20:41 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
OK, let me find out whether YouTube is being honest by declaring in the
video stream that an advertisement has started.
Thanks for this offer to learn more as the New Pipe code is open source and
many years old, so Google knows all about it, especially since it directly
competes with YouTube Red functionality.
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Notice the orange strips in the video's skip bar.
I haven't seen those "orange strips".
What are those orange strips supposed to be telling us?
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-01 11:08:16 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
Notice the orange strips in the video's skip bar.
I haven't seen those "orange strips".
What are those orange strips supposed to be telling us?
They indicates the time when the ad would be streamed. I might be wrong
about its color... orange? yellow? :)
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 02:52:24 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
They indicates the time when the ad would be streamed. I might be wrong
about its color... orange? yellow? :)
I actually brought up a web browser (horrible things that they are), and
looked at YouTube and I see what you're talking about.

The color doesn't matter - but what matters is that they "schedule" what
you called 'slipstream' ads (although Diesel seems to be adding a lot of
value to our combined tribal understanding of what exactly they indicate).

Thanks for the information - I'm a bit rusty on YouTube ads simply because
I haven't seen one in more than a year until today when I ran that test!

:)
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-02 15:37:46 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
I actually brought up a web browser (horrible things that they are), and
looked at YouTube and I see what you're talking about.
The color doesn't matter - but what matters is that they "schedule" what
you called 'slipstream' ads (although Diesel seems to be adding a lot of
value to our combined tribal understanding of what exactly they indicate).
If YouTube didn't honestly declare when advertisements would be inserted
(aka no colored bar in the seek bar), I don't think any simple add-ons
could block them.

Anyway, that's a long shot. ;)
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Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-02 15:40:10 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
If YouTube didn't honestly declare when advertisements would be inserted
(aka no colored bar in the seek bar), I don't think any simple add-ons
could block them.
Anyway, that's a long shot. ;)
When that happened, you would need to use A.I. to analyze the video in a
bid to find the starting and ending point of advertisements.

In television broadcast, when the TV station logo disappear from the
corner, it's advertisement. Now, apply that to YouTube videos and you
would know what I said. :)
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2018-01-02 00:16:27 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of
advertisements!
Let's see whether this would happen in the future. Wanna bet? ;)
Let's try to stay on topic.
Does anyone know of this slipstream-ad-free functionality on
Windows?
https://flashgot.net/

It doesn't block anything. Rather, it lets you grab the video you
actually want much faster than you could by 'streaming' it, advertising
free.
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Post by Diesel
https://flashgot.net/
It doesn't block anything. Rather, it lets you grab the video you
actually want much faster than you could by 'streaming' it, advertising
free.
Thanks for adding to the overall tribal knowledge of the group.

Suggestions from users are generally the best because they're usually free
of advertising and promotional pressures (unless you work for the NSA, in
which case they're trojans!). :)

I generally abhor browser-specific solutions to global problems, but this
flashgot looks good enough to archive for future use when/if it's needed.

https://secure.informaction.com/download/releases/flashgot-1.5.6.13.xpi
Diesel
2018-01-02 00:16:26 UTC
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Post by Mr. Man-wai Chang
I strongly believe that Youtube *CAN* slipstream advertisement so
smoothly and smart that no one could detect an insertion of
advertisements!
It's not really a slipstream. It's actually pausing the video you are
intentionally viewing and playing an advertising video; which is
entirely seperate and can even be downloaded using the plugin I happen
to use, if I wanted to do so.

When I'm using the plugin to leech a specific video, it doesn't include
the slipstream advertising because youtube isn't 'streaming' the video
to me at this point and has no control over the process. Instead, it
established a direct download link and is pulling the video/audio file
I wanted. So, there's nothing for youtube to pause and swap out on me.
The only way youtube could get around that would be to actually embed
the advertising into the original video, and, since alot of videos have
different formats and quality options, they'd have to do it to all of
them. Wasting storage space and processor resources on their end. I
don't see them intentionally doing that anytime soon.

https://flashgot.net/
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 03:33:58 UTC
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Post by Diesel
When I'm using the plugin to leech a specific video, it doesn't include
the slipstream advertising because youtube isn't 'streaming' the video
to me at this point and has no control over the process. Instead, it
established a direct download link and is pulling the video/audio file
I wanted. So, there's nothing for youtube to pause and swap out on me.
The only way youtube could get around that would be to actually embed
the advertising into the original video, and, since alot of videos have
different formats and quality options, they'd have to do it to all of
them. Wasting storage space and processor resources on their end. I
don't see them intentionally doing that anytime soon.
This explanation above advances our tribal knowledge quite nicely, where it
may explain why New Pipe and the Youtube downloader work, even though
Google has known about them for years and their source code is wide open to
inspection by Google.
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-02 15:42:14 UTC
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Post by Diesel
It's not really a slipstream. It's actually pausing the video you are
intentionally viewing and playing an advertising video; which is
entirely seperate and can even be downloaded using the plugin I happen
to use, if I wanted to do so.
When I'm using the plugin to leech a specific video, it doesn't include
the slipstream advertising because youtube isn't 'streaming' the video
to me at this point and has no control over the process. Instead, it
established a direct download link and is pulling the video/audio file
I wanted. So, there's nothing for youtube to pause and swap out on me.
The only way youtube could get around that would be to actually embed
the advertising into the original video, and, since alot of videos have
different formats and quality options, they'd have to do it to all of
them. Wasting storage space and processor resources on their end. I
don't see them intentionally doing that anytime soon.
https://flashgot.net/
Well said. Pardon my poor English, Master! ;)
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Andy Burns
2017-12-31 11:15:46 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone
Yet another nym?
Joe Scotch
2017-12-31 15:50:11 UTC
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Post by Andy Burns
Yet another nym?
Do you know the answer to the questions?

There are two on-topic questions in this thread, where I only ask if you
know the answer to those two questions.

1. Has anyone compiled the open source New Pipe for Windows yet?
<https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe>

2. Is it very hard for a coder to compile Android open source on Windows?
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6743538/compiling-android-tools-for-windows>

Do you (or anyone else) know the answer to both those questions?
Andy Burns
2018-01-01 10:16:15 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Is it very hard for a coder to compile Android open source on Windows?
On windows? No.

For windows? Yes, try an emulator instead.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:42 UTC
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Post by Andy Burns
Post by Joe Scotch
Is it very hard for a coder to compile Android open source on Windows?
On windows? No.
For windows? Yes, try an emulator instead.
Thanks for that idea as I hadn't thought of an Android emulator on Windows.
The effort to find the best Android emulator is the trick of course.
Generally I ask others what is the best.

Of course, I google first, where I look for top-10 lists, where I cull the
lists together to find if certain emulators always show up in the top
handful.

Sometimes that happens (which makes it easy to pick just one).
Often that doesn't happen (which means the lists are nearly worthless).

Top 7 Free Android Emulators for PC Windows 7/8/8.1/10 | Run Android apps
on Computer PC/Windows 7/8.1/10
http://techapple.net/2014/12/top-7-free-android-emulators-windows-788-110-pccomputer-run-android-appsgames-windows-78-110/

1. Nox App Player
http://digitalmid.com/nox_setup_v5.0.0.1_full.exe
2. BlueStacks
https://goo.gl/boz823
3. KO Player
http://down1.koplayer.com/Emulator/nichole/koplayer-1.4.1052-co020.exe
4. Andyroid Andy OS
https://goo.gl/AktCGi
5. Droid4X
http://droid4x.com
6. Windroy - The Android emulator with a Windows Kernel!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B728YkPxkCL8Wlh5dGdiVXdIS0k/edit?usp=sharing
7. GenyMotion
https://www.genymotion.com

8 Best Android Emulators for Windows 10 to Run Android Games & Apps
http://windowsreport.com/best-android-emulators-windows-10/

1. Andy
http://www.andyroid.net/test/getandy.php?partner=winreport
2. Droid4X
http://www.droid4x.com/
3. BlueStacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/
4. AMIDuOS
http://www.amiduos.com/
5. Windroy
http://windroy.en.softonic.com/
6. Genymotion
https://www.genymotion.com/#!/
7. Nox
http://en.bignox.com/
8. Xamarin Android Player
https://xamarin-android-player.s3.amazonaws.com/installer/Windows/Xamarin%20Android%20Player%20x64.exe

7 Best Android Emulators for Windows You Can Use
https://beebom.com/best-android-emulators-windows/

1. Remix OS Player
http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download
2. MEmu
http://www.memuplay.com/
3. Nox Player
https://www.bignox.com/#p1
4. BlueStacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/#gref
5. AMIDuOS
http://www.amiduos.com/ (30-day trial)
6. LeapDroid
https://leapdroid.en.softonic.com/
7. Genymotion
https://www.genymotion.com/
8. AndyOS (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine)
http://www.andyroid.net/
9. KoPlayer (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine)
http://www.koplayer.com/
10. Droid4X (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine)
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Mobile-Phone-Tools/Others/Droid4X.shtml
11. Android Studio (the official Android emnulator bundled with the dev
env)
https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html

12+- Best Android Emulators For Windows PC & Mac 2018
http://www.androidcrush.com/best-android-emulator-for-pc-windows/

1. Nox App Player
https://www.bignox.com/
2. Remix OS Player
http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download
3. BlueStacks
http://www.bluestacks.com/
4. GenyMotion
https://www.genymotion.com/
5. MEmu
http://www.memuplay.com/download.php?file_name=Memu-Setup&from=home_en
6. Andyroid
http://filehippo.com/download_andy/
7. Ko Player
http://www.koplayer.com/
8. Youwave
https://youwave.com/download/
9. VirtualBox with Android ISO
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
http://www.android-x86.org/download
10. Android Studio+IBk-s Emulator
https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html
11. Xamarin Android Player
https://developer.xamarin.com/releases/android/android-player/
12. LeapDroid
(no longer available)

Given these lists, I would guess that "Nox" is the way to go for beginners
like I am.

Do others who use Android emulation concur?
Which free Android emulator do you prefer for Windows and why?

NOTE: This should probably be a separate thread.
John Doe
2018-01-01 07:33:38 UTC
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Post by Andy Burns
Post by Joe Scotch
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone
Yet another nym?
No big deal anyway, the Windows 10 group is definitely not
being overrun by spam, but for people who enjoy USENET
mysteries... After taking a look, it appears to be a
different poster than the one who asked before. Not that the
header being different is conclusive, but here are the two,
beginning with the prior...

By the way... The original poster can search for the prior
thread if it wants other angles/answers to its question.
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:30 UTC
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Post by John Doe
No big deal anyway, the Windows 10 group is definitely not
being overrun by spam, but for people who enjoy USENET
mysteries... After taking a look, it appears to be a
different poster than the one who asked before. Not that the
header being different is conclusive, but here are the two,
beginning with the prior...
By the way... The original poster can search for the prior
thread if it wants other angles/answers to its question.
The problem here is that some people think all Black people are thieves,
all Jews are scheisters, all Muslims are terrorists, all Italians are in
the Mafia, all Germans are white supremecists, all women in skirts are
whores, all gay men are sluts, etc.

To wit, some people think that anyone who wants privacy on the net is
trolling or spamming even though they don't troll nor do they spam.

It's like accusing everyone of locking their car doors when they park at
the mall of hiding drugs in the vehicle.

Sure, trolls change their headers and spammers do too. But a troll actually
trolls, and a spammer actually spams.

There is no crime in changing headers, and, in fact, I've posted probably
ten thousand times on Usenet over the decades and never once have I trolled
or spammed.

1. I ask a question.
2. I respond to every valid response.
3. I attempt every viable suggestion.
4. I report back on what I found.
5. I generally *improve* the overall *tribal knowledge* of the group.
(Or at least I try.)

I don't even use a Usenet reader. I'm on Linux most of the time that I'm
using Usenet (where the tools I use originated with rn and tin on SunOS and
Solaris). I have no idea what *any* of the headers say since they're all
culled out of a dictionary lookup and only statically tied to the original
post.

Those decades-old scripts are a mess by now, but I don't even know *who* I
am when I post since that isn't of any concern to the question.

Why would it matter if "joe" posted or "bill" or "bobby" or "sue" when all
that matters is the question. The header contains nntp posting information
that is meaningless.

Some people here use Usenet to banter and to cajole and to make "friends".
I don't.

I use Usenet to expand my knowledge and to give back to the group with that
expanded knowledge.

I ask for your help - and I give help back in return.
I don't ask you to be my friend and I don't need you to know who I am.

All you need to know is what the question is, and what the answers become.
For that, you just need to know the SUBJECT and BODY.

Everything else is meaningless to the question.

You may have a "banter with friends" use model for Usenet.
My model is "ask for & improve knowledge".

Two different models.

Yours requires all headers to remain static.
Static headers would be meaningless in my model (and privacy leaking).
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-01-02 02:00:41 UTC
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In message <p2e3e6$rrc$***@dont-email.me>, Joe Scotch <***@aol.com>
writes:
[]
Post by Joe Scotch
The problem here is that some people think all Black people are thieves,
all Jews are scheisters, all Muslims are terrorists, all Italians are in
the Mafia, all Germans are white supremecists, all women in skirts are
whores, all gay men are sluts, etc.
[]
Post by Joe Scotch
You may have a "banter with friends" use model for Usenet.
My model is "ask for & improve knowledge".
Two different models.
"Some people think" [maybe only one person?] that you're either one or
the other model. That's like (to pick one example) that people can only
be heterosexual or homosexual.

Most people - and it applies to newsgroups, too - are a mix of the two;
most newsgroups, even technical ones like W7, _do_ have some "natter
with friends" feel. It's a _bit_ rude to try to _impose_ the other,
rather clinical (even if you talk about the "greater good" or similar
phrases), model on a 'group that has _some_ "friends/club" feeling.
Post by Joe Scotch
Yours requires all headers to remain static.
Static headers would be meaningless in my model (and privacy leaking).
In either the bits I've snipped, or another post in this thread, you
said something like you don't care whether it's Joe or Fred who's
posting, only what the question (and answer) is. We "friends" _do_ care,
and it _does_ matter to the extent that we develop a familiarity with
the character of frequent posters - for example, we learn whether they
sometimes post sense and/or good questions, or whether they're mad as a
hatter. For myself, I don't care two hoots about headers as such, though
I prefer to know a bit - such as the "Joe Scotch" identity you've
adopted for this thread: thanks for doing that. As to why you chose to
use that rather than the previous "identity" (regardless of headers) you
used last time you posted a lot about "group knowledge" or "greater
good" or whatever it was/is, I trust you a _little_ less because of the
change, but not enough to worry unduly (and I know you'll say you don't
care about how I see you anyway).
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Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 02:41:31 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
"Some people think" [maybe only one person?] that you're either one or
the other model. That's like (to pick one example) that people can only
be heterosexual or homosexual.
I understand your intended point which is that you feel there are something
like a billion Usenet use models, one for each type of person.

There are thousands of different bacteria.
... And yet, there are actual categories devised by intelligent people of
gram positive and gram negative bacteria. Fancy that. Intelligent people
can see similarities and differences even among thousands of species.

There are hundreds (maybe thousands) of different viral particles.
... And yet, there are actual categories by intelligent people of RNA
viruses and DNA viruses, Fancy that. Intelligent people can see
similarities and differences even among thousands of viral particles.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Most people - and it applies to newsgroups, too - are a mix of the two;
most newsgroups, even technical ones like W7, _do_ have some "natter
with friends" feel. It's a _bit_ rude to try to _impose_ the other,
rather clinical (even if you talk about the "greater good" or similar
phrases), model on a 'group that has _some_ "friends/club" feeling.
Again, how could I not understand your point, where I note that my own
decades-old hodge-podge newsreader agglomeration doesn't even show me *any*
threads but my own.

So, this "banter" model you speak of is not easily done by the likes of
people like me, simply because I don't even *see* any threads but my own.

And in my threads, my goal is singular. I'm extremely well educated, as you
might infer from my diction - where I have plenty of scientific and
engineering classes where I'm familiar with a "lab science" where you're
not there to talk about your day.

In a science lab you ask a question. You study the answers. You test those
answers. You summarize the results. And then you write up a summary and
disappear from that lab forever (moving on to the next question).

While I certainly understand your idle-banter model, you should be able to
respect my lab-science model.

Neither is better - they're just utterly and completely different.

In your idle banter model, "who" we are may be important.
In my lab-science model, "what" we learn is all that matters.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Joe Scotch
Yours requires all headers to remain static.
Static headers would be meaningless in my model (and privacy leaking).
In either the bits I've snipped, or another post in this thread, you
said something like you don't care whether it's Joe or Fred who's
posting, only what the question (and answer) is.
I know where you're going because I am probably as old as any octogenarian
on this newsgroup who has been on Usenet since before the days of home
computer.

What does it matter if you buy a car from "Fred" or from "Bill" if it's the
same car? Why would a drink made by "George" or "Susan" matter if it's the
same painting? Would your steak taste better if it was cooked by "Harold"
or by "Hortense"?

Now, if you just want to talk idle banter - then it *does* matter that you
known whom you converse with.

But not to ask a question, test the answers, and then get the hell out of
there because your lab is over and done. You've extended the tribal
knowledge with the lab summary, and you've archived it on tinyurl.com as
best you could.

HINT: Who do think *created* the tinyurl archival links in the first place?
http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-freeware
http://tinyurl.com/microsoft-public-windowsxp-gen
http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-android
http://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad
http://tinyurl.com/news-software-readers
etc.

*You think the Usenet fairy created them?*

I have posted so many times to Usenet, advancing our combined tribal
knowledge, with your help, so many times that I can't even hazard a guess,
but it must be in the range of ten thousand or more posts.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
We "friends" _do_ care,
and it _does_ matter to the extent that we develop a familiarity with
the character of frequent posters - for example, we learn whether they
sometimes post sense and/or good questions, or whether they're mad as a
hatter.
You've interacted with me thousands of times. Sometimes you're reasonable,
sometimes you're not. I respond to what you WRITE. I do not respond to who
you are.

That's my whole point of Black people all being thieves, Italians all being
Mafiosi, Jews all being greedy, Gays all being sluts, etc.

I don't care who you are, what your religion, what your education, what
your background, what your name, etc. I only care what VALUE you add.

If you add value intentionally, I thank you and combine your value with
mine. If you detract value intentionally, I may call you out on that.

Since I only respond to my own threads, it matters *greatly* that I stop
the trolls because I don't care if they ruin some other thread - but you
know that once a troll infests a thread, it's as good as dead.

For me, a dead thread is a question that gets no good answers.
I'm fine with a thread that *has* no good answer (hell, some of my
questions have no good answers).

But most have good answers.
And the trolls and morons who infest the Internet will ruin any thread they
touch.

They're like a cancer. It has to be amputated. Or it will kill the thread.
Ruthless means are often needed in the "lab science" model, whereas in the
"banter model" that you enjoy - just ignoring the trolls is good enough.

Two completely different use models.f
Two completely different problem sets.

Did you ever wonder why Penicillin only works on gram positive bacteria?
Completely different things need completely different approaches.

If you think all bacteria are the same, you'll completely miss that nuance
just as if you think all Usenet threads are the same, you'll miss it anew.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
For myself, I don't care two hoots about headers as such, though
I prefer to know a bit - such as the "Joe Scotch" identity you've
adopted for this thread: thanks for doing that.
I don't choose the identity. It's all randomized. So is my IP address. And
my time zone. And my nntp provider. Even the credentials for the nntp
provider are pulled out of a dictionary lookup. My interface to you is
simply "vi" (literally).

I don't see the headers and I don't know what they are and I don't put them
there since it's all done randomly using rn and tin based engines from so
long ago that I don't remember when they were first written (on UNIX, well
before Linux was a thing, if that gives you a clue).

What you're saying, in effect, is that you'd treat what I say differently
if I was a Black man than if I was an Asian woman. I know you wouldn't do
that - but that's what you're saying, in effect.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
As to why you chose to
use that rather than the previous "identity" (regardless of headers) you
used last time you posted a lot about "group knowledge" or "greater
good" or whatever it was/is, I trust you a _little_ less because of the
change, but not enough to worry unduly (and I know you'll say you don't
care about how I see you anyway).
You have conversed with me thousands of times over the years, I'm sure.
Sometimes you're reasonable; often you're not. Sometimes you're helpful,
sometimes you're not.

It doesn't matter to me except when you try to ruin a thread (see my
aforementioned need to get the "lab" done so that we can get an answer that
increases our tribal knowledge).

To summarize, none of you have been on Usenet must longer than I have, so
we're not going to teach each other anything about our use models. You have
your use model (which I understand) and I have mine (which I've explained).

My use model is ten times more complex than I've explained, but mainly I
care about P-R-I-V-A-C-Y from machine aggregators. As an example, there are
zero pictures of me on the Internet (AFAIK). Why? Because years ago I
participated in a research project where I was shocked how easily we would
run FFTs on satellite photos to match objects to the photos.

I realized then, well before "tagging" existed on the net, that it was just
too easy for botnet aggretators to cull the net and find almost anyone from
the data they post.

Since I happen to post tens of thousands of posts in my lifetime (I don't
know how many but what's fifty to a hundreds different technical posts a
day for twenty years equal?), it would be trivial to geolocate me to my
very chair with a machine that latches on to a single post.

When you have sociopathic psychos like "Goodguy" on the loose, do you think
that would be a good idea?

PS: My friends tell me I'm half the Internet alone. :)
John Doe
2018-01-02 03:27:46 UTC
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No idea why this thing went off on a tangent...
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/nIn <news:p2co8h$6ek$1 dont-email.me>, John Doe
Post by John Doe
No big deal anyway, the Windows 10 group is definitely not
being overrun by spam, but for people who enjoy USENET
mysteries... After taking a look, it appears to be a
different poster than the one who asked before. Not that the
header being different is conclusive, but here are the two,
beginning with the prior...
By the way... The original poster can search for the prior
thread if it wants other angles/answers to its question.
The problem here is that some people think all Black people are thieves,
all Jews are scheisters, all Muslims are terrorists, all Italians are in
the Mafia, all Germans are white supremecists, all women in skirts are
whores, all gay men are sluts, etc.
To wit, some people think that anyone who wants privacy on the net is
trolling or spamming even though they don't troll nor do they spam.
It's like accusing everyone of locking their car doors when they park at
the mall of hiding drugs in the vehicle.
Sure, trolls change their headers and spammers do too. But a troll actually
trolls, and a spammer actually spams.
There is no crime in changing headers, and, in fact, I've posted probably
ten thousand times on Usenet over the decades and never once have I trolled
or spammed.
1. I ask a question.
2. I respond to every valid response.
3. I attempt every viable suggestion.
4. I report back on what I found.
5. I generally *improve* the overall *tribal knowledge* of the group.
(Or at least I try.)
I don't even use a Usenet reader. I'm on Linux most of the time that I'm
using Usenet (where the tools I use originated with rn and tin on SunOS and
Solaris). I have no idea what *any* of the headers say since they're all
culled out of a dictionary lookup and only statically tied to the original
post.
Those decades-old scripts are a mess by now, but I don't even know *who* I
am when I post since that isn't of any concern to the question.
Why would it matter if "joe" posted or "bill" or "bobby" or "sue" when all
that matters is the question. The header contains nntp posting information
that is meaningless.
Some people here use Usenet to banter and to cajole and to make "friends".
I don't.
I use Usenet to expand my knowledge and to give back to the group with that
expanded knowledge.
I ask for your help - and I give help back in return.
I don't ask you to be my friend and I don't need you to know who I am.
All you need to know is what the question is, and what the answers become.
For that, you just need to know the SUBJECT and BODY.
Everything else is meaningless to the question.
You may have a "banter with friends" use model for Usenet.
My model is "ask for & improve knowledge".
Two different models.
Yours requires all headers to remain static.
Static headers would be meaningless in my model (and privacy leaking).
Joe Scotch
2018-01-02 03:41:23 UTC
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Post by John Doe
No idea why this thing went off on a tangent...
To the troll John Doe,

What value does your obvious trolling add toward getting *all* of us the
same capabilities that the New Pipe executable conveys?
Diesel
2018-01-03 02:37:40 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
The problem here is that some people think all Black people are
thieves, all Jews are scheisters, all Muslims are terrorists, all
Italians are in the Mafia, all Germans are white supremecists, all
women in skirts are whores, all gay men are sluts, etc.
To wit, some people think that anyone who wants privacy on the net
is trolling or spamming even though they don't troll nor do they
spam.
One individual in particular seems to be of the mistaken impression
that if you value your privacy online, you must have something to hide.
And, there's no concept of privacy online either. Obviously the
individual is mistaken on both counts. I also warn you in advance, if
you disagree with the individual concerning the above two matters, they
take it personally and seek to learn more about you, if possible. Under
the false guise of 'hunting bad guys' as, obviously to them, only bad
guys feel a need to be private.

My signature contains more information about the individual I've
briefly described above and I strongly encourage you to become
acquainted with the material offered. You clearly take additional steps
most regular users do not to ensure you're privacy, but, as they say
knowledge is power and knowing more about atleast one individual who
isn't out to help certainly can't hurt you.
--
To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber
stalking, it's highly recommended you visit here:
https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
===================================================
I wish life had a scroll-back buffer.....
Joe Scotch
2018-01-03 20:27:06 UTC
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Post by Diesel
One individual in particular seems to be of the mistaken impression
that if you value your privacy online, you must have something to hide.
Your point is valid, in that it's very few people who think that anyone who
changes nyms and headers is a troll simply because they change nyms and
headers.

They're just like the people who think all Muslims are terrorists.

A troll has to actually troll to be a troll.
Post by Diesel
And, there's no concept of privacy online either.
True. As every Uesnet post is scooped up ... But...

Privacy depends on the adversary, does it not?

If the adversary is a state-sponsored or otherwise well-funded criminal
organization, you'd better not go anywhere near the Internet.

However, if the adversary is a commercial bot, then you can likely avoid
being pulled out of the agglomeration simply by changing headers.

If I wanted to, I'd change my writing style, which would add a second level
of privacy (but at greater effort).

The cost of privacy is always in the effort involved.
Post by Diesel
Obviously the
individual is mistaken on both counts. I also warn you in advance, if
you disagree with the individual concerning the above two matters, they
take it personally and seek to learn more about you, if possible. Under
the false guise of 'hunting bad guys' as, obviously to them, only bad
guys feel a need to be private.
The nym of Goodguy is one of those psychopaths, who keeps a log of each one
of us, with our headers and nntp posting hosts as his correlation.

Plenty more sociopaths on the nntp-related newsgroup alt.free.newsservers.
http://tinyurl.com/alt-free-newsservers
Post by Diesel
My signature contains more information about the individual I've
briefly described above and I strongly encourage you to become
acquainted with the material offered.
Thanks. The one thing they would hate is someone doing to them what they
habitually do to others - so you did the right thing. Kudos to you.
Joe Scotch
2018-01-01 19:50:46 UTC
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Post by Joe Scotch
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
I was looking up file redirects in the existing youtube video extractor on
Windows when I noticed in the man page that there is actually an option to
*include* the ads!

Of all things! :)

Here's the manpage where the point of the man page is that it does a *lot*
more than just download a video.

Usage: youtube-dl.exe [OPTIONS] URL [URL...]

Options:
General Options:
-h, --help Print this help text and exit
--version Print program version and exit
-U, --update Update this program to latest version.
Make
sure that you have sufficient
permissions
(run with sudo if needed)
-i, --ignore-errors Continue on download errors, for
example to
skip unavailable videos in a playlist
--abort-on-error Abort downloading of further videos
(in the
playlist or the command line) if an
error
occurs
--dump-user-agent Display the current browser
identification
--list-extractors List all supported extractors
--extractor-descriptions Output descriptions of all supported
extractors
--force-generic-extractor Force extraction to use the generic
extractor
--default-search PREFIX Use this prefix for unqualified URLs.
For
example "gvsearch2:" downloads two
videos
from google videos for youtube-dl
"large
apple". Use the value "auto" to let
youtube-dl guess ("auto_warning" to
emit a
warning when guessing). "error" just
throws
an error. The default value
"fixup_error"
repairs broken URLs, but emits an
error if
this is not possible instead of
searching.
--ignore-config Do not read configuration files. When
given
in the global configuration file /etc
/youtube-dl.conf: Do not read the user
configuration in ~/.config/youtube-
dl/config
(%APPDATA%/youtube-dl/config.txt
on Windows)
--config-location PATH Location of the configuration file;
either
the path to the config or its
containing
directory.
--flat-playlist Do not extract the videos of a
playlist,
only list them.
--mark-watched Mark videos watched (YouTube only)
--no-mark-watched Do not mark videos watched (YouTube
only)
--no-color Do not emit color codes in output

Network Options:
--proxy URL Use the specified HTTP/HTTPS/SOCKS
proxy.
To enable experimental SOCKS proxy,
specify
a proper scheme. For example
socks5://127.0.0.1:1080/. Pass in an
empty
string (--proxy "") for direct
connection
--socket-timeout SECONDS Time to wait before giving up, in
seconds
--source-address IP Client-side IP address to bind to
-4, --force-ipv4 Make all connections via IPv4
-6, --force-ipv6 Make all connections via IPv6

Geo Restriction:
--geo-verification-proxy URL Use this proxy to verify the IP
address for
some geo-restricted sites. The default
proxy specified by --proxy (or none,
if the
options is not present) is used for
the
actual downloading.
--geo-bypass Bypass geographic restriction via
faking X
-Forwarded-For HTTP header
(experimental)
--no-geo-bypass Do not bypass geographic restriction
via
faking X-Forwarded-For HTTP header
(experimental)
--geo-bypass-country CODE Force bypass geographic restriction
with
explicitly provided two-letter ISO
3166-2
country code (experimental)

Video Selection:
--playlist-start NUMBER Playlist video to start at (default is
1)
--playlist-end NUMBER Playlist video to end at (default is
last)
--playlist-items ITEM_SPEC Playlist video items to download.
Specify
indices of the videos in the playlist
separated by commas like:
"--playlist-items
1,2,5,8" if you want to download
videos
indexed 1, 2, 5, 8 in the playlist.
You can
specify range: "--playlist-items
1-3,7,10-13", it will download the
videos
at index 1, 2, 3, 7, 10, 11, 12 and
13.
--match-title REGEX Download only matching titles (regex
or
caseless sub-string)
--reject-title REGEX Skip download for matching titles
(regex or
caseless sub-string)
--max-downloads NUMBER Abort after downloading NUMBER files
--min-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos smaller
than
SIZE (e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--max-filesize SIZE Do not download any videos larger than
SIZE
(e.g. 50k or 44.6m)
--date DATE Download only videos uploaded in this
date
--datebefore DATE Download only videos uploaded on or
before
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--dateafter DATE Download only videos uploaded on or
after
this date (i.e. inclusive)
--min-views COUNT Do not download any videos with less
than
COUNT views
--max-views COUNT Do not download any videos with more
than
COUNT views
--match-filter FILTER Generic video filter. Specify any key
(see
the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a list of
available keys) to match if the key is
present, !key to check if the key is
not
present, key > NUMBER (like
"comment_count
Post by Joe Scotch
12", also works with >=, <, <=, !=, =) to
compare against a number, key 'LITERAL'
(like "uploader = 'Mike Smith'", also
works
with !=) to match against a string
literal
and & to require multiple matches.
Values
which are not known are excluded
unless you
put a question mark (?) after the
operator.
For example, to only match videos that
have
been liked more than 100 times and
disliked
less than 50 times (or the dislike
functionality is not available at the
given
service), but who also have a
description,
use --match-filter "like_count > 100 &
dislike_count <? 50 & description" .
--no-playlist Download only the video, if the URL
refers
to a video and a playlist.
--yes-playlist Download the playlist, if the URL
refers to
a video and a playlist.
--age-limit YEARS Download only videos suitable for the
given
age
--download-archive FILE Download only videos not listed in the
archive file. Record the IDs of all
downloaded videos in it.
--include-ads Download advertisements as well
(experimental)

Download Options:
-r, --limit-rate RATE Maximum download rate in bytes per
second
(e.g. 50K or 4.2M)
-R, --retries RETRIES Number of retries (default is 10), or
"infinite".
--fragment-retries RETRIES Number of retries for a fragment
(default
is 10), or "infinite" (DASH, hlsnative
and
ISM)
--skip-unavailable-fragments Skip unavailable fragments (DASH,
hlsnative
and ISM)
--abort-on-unavailable-fragment Abort downloading when some fragment
is not
available
--keep-fragments Keep downloaded fragments on disk
after
downloading is finished; fragments are
erased by default
--buffer-size SIZE Size of download buffer (e.g. 1024 or
16K)
(default is 1024)
--no-resize-buffer Do not automatically adjust the buffer
size. By default, the buffer size is
automatically resized from an initial
value
of SIZE.
--playlist-reverse Download playlist videos in reverse
order
--playlist-random Download playlist videos in random
order
--xattr-set-filesize Set file xattribute ytdl.filesize with
expected file size (experimental)
--hls-prefer-native Use the native HLS downloader instead
of
ffmpeg
--hls-prefer-ffmpeg Use ffmpeg instead of the native HLS
downloader
--hls-use-mpegts Use the mpegts container for HLS
videos,
allowing to play the video while
downloading (some players may not be
able
to play it)
--external-downloader COMMAND Use the specified external downloader.
Currently supports

aria2c,avconv,axel,curl,ffmpeg,httpie,wget
--external-downloader-args ARGS Give these arguments to the external
downloader

Filesystem Options:
-a, --batch-file FILE File containing URLs to download ('-'
for
stdin)
--id Use only video ID in file name
-o, --output TEMPLATE Output filename template, see the
"OUTPUT
TEMPLATE" for all the info
--autonumber-start NUMBER Specify the start value for
%(autonumber)s
(default is 1)
--restrict-filenames Restrict filenames to only ASCII
characters, and avoid "&" and spaces
in
filenames
-w, --no-overwrites Do not overwrite files
-c, --continue Force resume of partially downloaded
files.
By default, youtube-dl will resume
downloads if possible.
--no-continue Do not resume partially downloaded
files
(restart from beginning)
--no-part Do not use .part files - write
directly
into output file
--no-mtime Do not use the Last-modified header to
set
the file modification time
--write-description Write video description to a
.description
file
--write-info-json Write video metadata to a .info.json
file
--write-annotations Write video annotations to a
.annotations.xml file
--load-info-json FILE JSON file containing the video
information
(created with the "--write-info-json"
option)
--cookies FILE File to read cookies from and dump
cookie
jar in
--cache-dir DIR Location in the filesystem where
youtube-dl
can store some downloaded information
permanently. By default
$XDG_CACHE_HOME
/youtube-dl or ~/.cache/youtube-dl .
At the
moment, only YouTube player files (for
videos with obfuscated signatures) are
cached, but that may change.
--no-cache-dir Disable filesystem caching
--rm-cache-dir Delete all filesystem cache files

Thumbnail images:
--write-thumbnail Write thumbnail image to disk
--write-all-thumbnails Write all thumbnail image formats to
disk
--list-thumbnails Simulate and list all available
thumbnail
formats

Verbosity / Simulation Options:
-q, --quiet Activate quiet mode
--no-warnings Ignore warnings
-s, --simulate Do not download the video and do not
write
anything to disk
--skip-download Do not download the video
-g, --get-url Simulate, quiet but print URL
-e, --get-title Simulate, quiet but print title
--get-id Simulate, quiet but print id
--get-thumbnail Simulate, quiet but print thumbnail
URL
--get-description Simulate, quiet but print video
description
--get-duration Simulate, quiet but print video length
--get-filename Simulate, quiet but print output
filename
--get-format Simulate, quiet but print output
format
-j, --dump-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON
information.
See the "OUTPUT TEMPLATE" for a
description
of available keys.
-J, --dump-single-json Simulate, quiet but print JSON
information
for each command-line argument. If the
URL
refers to a playlist, dump the whole
playlist information in a single line.
--print-json Be quiet and print the video
information as
JSON (video is still being
downloaded).
--newline Output progress bar as new lines
--no-progress Do not print progress bar
--console-title Display progress in console titlebar
-v, --verbose Print various debugging information
--dump-pages Print downloaded pages encoded using
base64
to debug problems (very verbose)
--write-pages Write downloaded intermediary pages to
files in the current directory to
debug
problems
--print-traffic Display sent and read HTTP traffic
-C, --call-home Contact the youtube-dl server for
debugging
--no-call-home Do NOT contact the youtube-dl server
for
debugging

Workarounds:
--encoding ENCODING Force the specified encoding
(experimental)
--no-check-certificate Suppress HTTPS certificate validation
--prefer-insecure Use an unencrypted connection to
retrieve
information about the video.
(Currently
supported only for YouTube)
--user-agent UA Specify a custom user agent
--referer URL Specify a custom referer, use if the
video
access is restricted to one domain
--add-header FIELD:VALUE Specify a custom HTTP header and its
value,
separated by a colon ':'. You can use
this
option multiple times
--bidi-workaround Work around terminals that lack
bidirectional text support. Requires
bidiv
or fribidi executable in PATH
--sleep-interval SECONDS Number of seconds to sleep before each
download when used alone or a lower
bound
of a range for randomized sleep before
each
download (minimum possible number of
seconds to sleep) when used along with
--max-sleep-interval.
--max-sleep-interval SECONDS Upper bound of a range for randomized
sleep
before each download (maximum possible
number of seconds to sleep). Must only
be
used along with --min-sleep-interval.

Video Format Options:
-f, --format FORMAT Video format code, see the "FORMAT
SELECTION" for all the info
--all-formats Download all available video formats
--prefer-free-formats Prefer free video formats unless a
specific
one is requested
-F, --list-formats List all available formats of
requested
videos
--youtube-skip-dash-manifest Do not download the DASH manifests and
related data on YouTube videos
--merge-output-format FORMAT If a merge is required (e.g.
bestvideo+bestaudio), output to given
container format. One of mkv, mp4,
ogg,
webm, flv. Ignored if no merge is
required

Subtitle Options:
--write-sub Write subtitle file
--write-auto-sub Write automatically generated subtitle
file
(YouTube only)
--all-subs Download all the available subtitles
of the
video
--list-subs List all available subtitles for the
video
--sub-format FORMAT Subtitle format, accepts formats
preference, for example: "srt" or
"ass/srt/best"
--sub-lang LANGS Languages of the subtitles to download
(optional) separated by commas, use
--list-
subs for available language tags

Authentication Options:
-u, --username USERNAME Login with this account ID
-p, --password PASSWORD Account password. If this option is
left
out, youtube-dl will ask
interactively.
-2, --twofactor TWOFACTOR Two-factor authentication code
-n, --netrc Use .netrc authentication data
--video-password PASSWORD Video password (vimeo, smotri, youku)

Adobe Pass Options:
--ap-mso MSO Adobe Pass multiple-system operator
(TV
provider) identifier, use
--ap-list-mso for
a list of available MSOs
--ap-username USERNAME Multiple-system operator account login
--ap-password PASSWORD Multiple-system operator account
password.
If this option is left out, youtube-dl
will
ask interactively.
--ap-list-mso List all supported multiple-system
operators

Post-processing Options:
-x, --extract-audio Convert video files to audio-only
files
(requires ffmpeg or avconv and ffprobe
or
avprobe)
--audio-format FORMAT Specify audio format: "best", "aac",
"flac", "mp3", "m4a", "opus",
"vorbis", or
"wav"; "best" by default; No effect
without
-x
--audio-quality QUALITY Specify ffmpeg/avconv audio quality,
insert
a value between 0 (better) and 9
(worse)
for VBR or a specific bitrate like
128K
(default 5)
--recode-video FORMAT Encode the video to another format if
necessary (currently supported:
mp4|flv|ogg|webm|mkv|avi)
--postprocessor-args ARGS Give these arguments to the
postprocessor
-k, --keep-video Keep the video file on disk after the
post-
processing; the video is erased by
default
--no-post-overwrites Do not overwrite post-processed files;
the
post-processed files are overwritten
by
default
--embed-subs Embed subtitles in the video (only for
mp4,
webm and mkv videos)
--embed-thumbnail Embed thumbnail in the audio as cover
art
--add-metadata Write metadata to the video file
--metadata-from-title FORMAT Parse additional metadata like song
title /
artist from the video title. The
format
syntax is the same as --output.
Regular
expression with named capture groups
may
also be used. The parsed parameters
replace
existing values. Example:
--metadata-from-
title "%(artist)s - %(title)s" matches
a
title like "Coldplay - Paradise".
Example
(regex): --metadata-from-title
"(?P<artist>.+?) - (?P<title>.+)"
--xattrs Write metadata to the video file's
xattrs
(using dublin core and xdg standards)
--fixup POLICY Automatically correct known faults of
the
file. One of never (do nothing), warn
(only
emit a warning), detect_or_warn (the
default; fix file if we can, warn
otherwise)
--prefer-avconv Prefer avconv over ffmpeg for running
the
postprocessors (default)
--prefer-ffmpeg Prefer ffmpeg over avconv for running
the
postprocessors
--ffmpeg-location PATH Location of the ffmpeg/avconv binary;
either the path to the binary or its
containing directory.
--exec CMD Execute a command on the file after
downloading, similar to find's -exec
syntax. Example: --exec 'adb push {}
/sdcard/Music/ && rm {}'
--convert-subs FORMAT Convert the subtitles to other format
(currently supported: srt|ass|vtt)
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