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Firedup
2018-05-22 21:12:46 UTC
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Running Win XP pro on several PCs.

I need to have Thunderbird automatically place the eMail attachments in
a local folder.

I have never had any kind of problem using FileZilla with Thunderbird.
It just works for me !

My oldest XP pro does this with FileZilla perfectly but the later
Thunderbird version is giving me the bird !

Is there some addon that will place attachments in any folder folder ?

Trying here first since I get no satisfaction at the Tbird newsgroup.

if I have to go to an old Tbird, the so be it !
I must do this task !
Where can I get the one that works with FileZilla ?
Links please.

Thank you !
Firedup
2018-05-22 21:15:10 UTC
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Sorry, it is FiltaQuilla. NOT FileZilla
Post by Firedup
Running Win XP pro on several PCs.
I need to have Thunderbird automatically place the eMail attachments in
a local folder.
I have never had any kind of problem using FileZilla with Thunderbird.
It just works for me !
My oldest XP pro does this with FileZilla perfectly but the later
Thunderbird version is giving me the bird !
Is there some addon that will place attachments in any folder folder ?
Trying here first since I get no satisfaction at the Tbird newsgroup.
if I have to go to an old Tbird, the so be it !
I must do this task !
Where can I get the one that works with FileZilla ?
Links please.
Thank you !
Paul
2018-05-22 21:31:57 UTC
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Sorry, it is FiltaQuilla. NOT FileZilla
Post by Firedup
Running Win XP pro on several PCs.
I need to have Thunderbird automatically place the eMail attachments in
a local folder.
I have never had any kind of problem using FileZilla with Thunderbird.
It just works for me !
My oldest XP pro does this with FileZilla perfectly but the later
Thunderbird version is giving me the bird !
Is there some addon that will place attachments in any folder folder ?
Trying here first since I get no satisfaction at the Tbird newsgroup.
if I have to go to an old Tbird, the so be it !
I must do this task !
Where can I get the one that works with FileZilla ?
Links please.
Thank you !
Sorry, it is FiltaQuilla. NOT FileZilla
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1067402

"Messages are stored as received, verbatim, with attachments *inline*."

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filtaquilla/

"Works with Thunderbird 3.0b3pre to Thunderbird 45.* "

[EDIT]
Was really easy to make it work, and work great, with my TB 52.3.

Do the following (this seems like a lot of steps, but I like to do all baby steps):
1. download the XPI
2. rename the .xpi to .zip
3. open it with 7-zip (or whatever you use to open zip files) extract the content to a folder.
4. open file install.rdf
5. change this line "<em:maxVersion>45.*</em:maxVersion> "
to "<em:maxVersion>55.*</em:maxVersion>" (I changed it
to 55 just to be safe for future updates of Thunderbird)
6. save the file install.rdf
7. from within the folder where the files are, select them all
and make a zip with the defaults for "normal" compression.
8. rename the file from .zip to .xpi
9. and lastly follow the very simple instructions from mozilla
on how to install a xpi as an extension
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/installing-addon-thunderbird#w_a-slightly-less-ideal-case-install-from-a-downloaded-xpi-file)

So that details how to "hack" the resource info so that it
claims filtaquilla works with later versions.

This might continue to work, until Thunderbird stops using
Firefox 52ESR as its code base.

Paul
VanguardLH
2018-05-23 03:08:19 UTC
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Post by Firedup
Sorry, it is FiltaQuilla. NOT FileZilla
Post by Firedup
Running Win XP pro on several PCs.
I need to have Thunderbird automatically place the eMail attachments in
a local folder.
I have never had any kind of problem using FileZilla with Thunderbird.
It just works for me !
My oldest XP pro does this with FileZilla perfectly but the later
Thunderbird version is giving me the bird !
Is there some addon that will place attachments in any folder folder ?
Trying here first since I get no satisfaction at the Tbird newsgroup.
if I have to go to an old Tbird, the so be it !
I must do this task !
Where can I get the one that works with FileZilla ?
Links please.
Thank you !
Sorry, it is FiltaQuilla. NOT FileZilla
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1067402
"Messages are stored as received, verbatim, with attachments *inline*."
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/filtaquilla/
"Works with Thunderbird 3.0b3pre to Thunderbird 45.* "
[EDIT]
Was really easy to make it work, and work great, with my TB 52.3.
1. download the XPI
2. rename the .xpi to .zip
3. open it with 7-zip (or whatever you use to open zip files) extract the content to a folder.
4. open file install.rdf
5. change this line "<em:maxVersion>45.*</em:maxVersion> "
to "<em:maxVersion>55.*</em:maxVersion>" (I changed it
to 55 just to be safe for future updates of Thunderbird)
6. save the file install.rdf
7. from within the folder where the files are, select them all
and make a zip with the defaults for "normal" compression.
8. rename the file from .zip to .xpi
9. and lastly follow the very simple instructions from mozilla
on how to install a xpi as an extension
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/installing-addon-thunderbird#w_a-slightly-less-ideal-case-install-from-a-downloaded-xpi-file)
So that details how to "hack" the resource info so that it
claims filtaquilla works with later versions.
This might continue to work, until Thunderbird stops using
Firefox 52ESR as its code base.
While the .xpi can be hacked to remove the version range restriction,
that doesn't mean the add-on will work in a later version of
Thunderbird. The OP could go through all that but the add-on may
malfunction, or he could get lucky and it still works.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/ will find lots of add-ons
on matching an "attachments" search that will extract the attachments
which are ALWAYS "inline". Attachments are MIME parts within the body
of the message. The disposition=inline attribute of the MIME part means
the client should show an attachment in the body of the message at the
point where is the MIME part. The disposition=attachment attribute
hints to the client that it should merely show the MIME part as an
attachment to the message.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/search/?q=attachment

That finds add-ons that have something to do with attachment handling in
Thunderbird (which is also what FiltaQuilla did). However, lots of
add-ons are listed that ceased supporting some pretty old versions of
Thunderbird. At the above web page, I clicked on "Any Thunderbird" to
get a list of versions of Thunderbird (but it will not list all
versions). I picked the latest version (62.0) since the OP did not clue
us into what version he is using. That narrowed the search down to just
4 selections but none of them extract the attachments in received
e-mails or hunt through Thunderbird's message store to find and extract
attachments from any and all e-mails that have them. Even going down to
version 52.0 of Thunderbird did not find a match on the search where an
add-on claimed support up to that version of Thunderbird and would
extract attachments.

Modifying the .xpi to change the version range restriction might work.
Well, it'll circumvent the installer from puking on the version check.
Whether the add-on actually works in a later version of Thunderbird than
it claims to support is, well, a coin toss.

There are 3rd party tools to scan .eml files and extract/save
attachments in them. Usually you point to a folder where are the .eml
files (message store) for the e-mail client and have the tool scan all
.eml files to find those with MIME parts to decode them into a separate
file.

https://www.outlookfreeware.com/en/products/all/OutlookSaveAttachmentsEML
Although its says it is for MS Outlook, it is just hunting for .eml
files. A feature not listed is replacing the MIME part with a local URL
pointing to the extracted attachment. My guess is it extracts and saves
a copy of the attachment but does not remove the MIME part from the
e-mail (so there is no reduction in the message store for the e-mail
client). "After you save attachments from EML files, you can remove
them to reduce the size of your email archive by using the other utility
we provide." They don't mention the "other utility" but my is
https://www.reliefjet.com/Essentials/Features/OutlookRemoveAttachmentsEML.

https://www.rebex.net/sample/mail-extract-attachments/
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/19255083/vba-outlook-extracting-attachments-from-eml-files
There are some code examples there. Outlook can run macros via rules
but I don't know if Thunderbird can.

There are some EML attachment extractors but they cost money. I suspect
the OP is looking only free solutions since FiltaQuilla was free.
Firedup
2018-05-23 03:42:36 UTC
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1st PC
Win XP Pro
TBird 52.8.0 (32-bit)
FiltaQuilla installed and works.

2nd PC
Win XP Pro
TBird latest esr version
FiltaQuilla will not install


I can perhaps rewind to 52.8.
Good Guy
2018-05-23 15:19:28 UTC
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Post by Firedup
I can perhaps rewind to 52.8.
Very good idea. What are you waiting for?

Have you thought of buying a new machine with Windows 10 on it? XP is
dead. It does what you want to do but it certainly can't run modern
programs. Unless you are in your 80s then you should always consider of
the future. People in their 80s have very short time left on this
planet so they can ponder and pass time on their beloved Windows XP
machine.

We have got a chap called Mark Twaine who is going out of of his way to
buy refurnished machines that has Windows XP on it. How daft can you
get 🀔🀔🀔🀔🀔🀔🀔🀔
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