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OG
2018-03-17 00:59:32 UTC
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Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will
allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc
cleaning software on it ?
Paul in Houston TX
2018-03-17 01:08:28 UTC
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Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will allow a Windows
PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc cleaning software on it ?
One of many:
https://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/rescuedisk
Good Guy
2018-03-17 01:18:42 UTC
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Post by Paul in Houston TX
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will allow a Windows
PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc cleaning software on it ?
https://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/rescuedisk
Don't be silly; that's Russian and one should use a barge pole to touch
it; It itself might be infected!!!!!

Do a search and British Authorities have asked all Government
departments to stop using Russian spyware. Even Barclays Bank have
stopped giving away free of charge.
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Shadow
2018-03-17 10:07:11 UTC
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 20:08:28 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
Post by Paul in Houston TX
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will allow a Windows
PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc cleaning software on it ?
https://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/rescuedisk
+1 on Kaspersky.

OP: If you download the latest ISO it will probably have
current definitions, and won't need an update.

I prefer this link

https://support.kaspersky.com/4162

Ahhhh ... download and burn it to a CD/USB on a SAFE machine
before you use it on the suspect. NEVER try to make a boot CD from a
machine that might have been compromised.
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tesla sTinker
2018-03-17 01:55:39 UTC
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you should not use a russian for such a thing.
Besides, Windows will do this for you.

Open the windows explorer, and at the top menu,under help, choose view
help.
Then type in the slot, where it says search help, create boot cd.
It will open a help window that has What is a boot disk (startup disc)
and why I need one. Click that. In that text the link says, Create a
system repair disc. Clik it. Then it says, Clik to open backup
restore, Clik it. then on the left side of that window, it says,
Third one down, Create a system repair disc. Clik it. Then a small
window will open, and it will have your cd dvd player in the slot and
any other hardware that is accesible to your computer. It will say,
create disc on the button. Clik it. Then follow it. Your done.
Make sure you have a blank formatted disc in the drive.
Post by OG
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will
allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc
cleaning software on it ?
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-03-17 16:31:28 UTC
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Post by tesla sTinker
you should not use a russian for such a thing.
Besides, Windows will do this for you.
Open the windows explorer, and at the top menu,under help, choose view
help.
Then type in the slot, where it says search help, create boot cd.
It will open a help window that has What is a boot disk (startup disc)
and why I need one. Click that. In that text the link says, Create a
system repair disc. Clik it. Then it says, Clik to open backup
restore, Clik it. then on the left side of that window, it says,
Third one down, Create a system repair disc. Clik it. Then a small
window will open, and it will have your cd dvd player in the slot and
any other hardware that is accesible to your computer. It will say,
create disc on the button. Clik it. Then follow it. Your done.
1. You are posting this to both the XP and 7 'groups; I suspect the
above instructions are specific to 7, and probably to only one
configuration of 7.
Post by tesla sTinker
Make sure you have a blank formatted disc in the drive.
2. Formatted? (I know what that _could_ mean, but certainly wouldn't
have used the word: the unwary user might attempt a formatting stage
first, on reading that, which would not be a good idea.)
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Post by OG
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will
allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc
cleaning software on it ?
3. The instructions you have given are for making a system repair disc.
This will not have any virus-checking software on it, which is what the
OP (OG) asked for.

The two Pauls and another _have_ given assorted answers to the question.
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tesla sTinker
2018-03-17 19:11:42 UTC
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I was not talking to you. ass hole
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by tesla sTinker
you should not use a russian for such a thing.
Besides, Windows will do this for you.
Open the windows explorer, and at the top menu,under help, choose view
help.
Then type in the slot, where it says search help, create boot cd.
It will open a help window that has What is a boot disk (startup disc)
and why I need one. Click that. In that text the link says, Create a
system repair disc. Clik it. Then it says, Clik to open backup
restore, Clik it. then on the left side of that window, it says, Third
one down, Create a system repair disc. Clik it. Then a small window
will open, and it will have your cd dvd player in the slot and any
other hardware that is accesible to your computer. It will say, create
disc on the button. Clik it. Then follow it. Your done.
1. You are posting this to both the XP and 7 'groups; I suspect the
above instructions are specific to 7, and probably to only one
configuration of 7.
Post by tesla sTinker
Make sure you have a blank formatted disc in the drive.
2. Formatted? (I know what that _could_ mean, but certainly wouldn't
have used the word: the unwary user might attempt a formatting stage
first, on reading that, which would not be a good idea.)
Post by tesla sTinker
Post by OG
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will
allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc
cleaning software on it ?
3. The instructions you have given are for making a system repair disc.
This will not have any virus-checking software on it, which is what the
OP (OG) asked for.
The two Pauls and another _have_ given assorted answers to the question.
Paul
2018-03-17 06:12:23 UTC
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Post by OG
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that will
allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and etc
cleaning software on it ?
The Bitdefender one is here.

http://download.bitdefender.com/rescue_cd/

TrendMicro (I didn't even know they had one).

https://www.trendmicro.com/en_us/forHome/products/free-tools/rescue-disk.html

Load a copy of EICAR (benign test virus) on the
hard drive, before you test.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EICAR_test_file

The general principle of rescue discs:

1) Set the boot order on the PC, so the optical
drive boots. If you get the "press a key to boot from CD"
then do so at the prompt.

2) CD boots Linux. These things generally use Linux rather
than WinPE, although nothing prevents WinPE usage particularly.

3) The definitions on the CD will be out of date.
You will click a button in the main operating window,
to download around 100MB worth of files.

4) Once the definitions are unpacked, the scan can begin.
The interface will have partition letters, saying what
to scan. The letter assignments are usually wrong.
On a machine with multiple OSes, only the mountvol in
one of the OSes, can be used to decide what the drive
letters might have been, when that OS was running. So if
the drive letters are wrong, blame the Windows design for it.

The quality of what is done, varies as much as the weather.
I've had products that couldn't even tie their own shoe laces.
And I don't know if anyone has done a methodical study of
these things or not. Obviously, they can only do signature
analysis. For a brand new piece of malware, they might well
do nothing. For an older piece of malware (one where you
forgot to install some security update), they might help.

The scan times can also be quite variable. Some scanners
use parallelism, but only up to a point. If you had
a processor with 16 cores, the scan might use no more than
4 cores or so.

Paul
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-03-17 15:49:36 UTC
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Post by OG
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that
will allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and
etc cleaning software on it ?
The two Pauls, and Shadow, have given you some answers.

Note that strictly, when booted from a CD, it isn't a "Windows PC", it
is just a PC. Paul says most of these CDs actually use Linux.

If it is a PC on which you normally do run Windows, then of course,
ideally, the virus scanning software should look for Windows viruses at
least, but AFAIK all of them do that at least.

I'm wary of your "and etc", mind. Most here would say steer clear of
registry cleaners, for example (I _mostly_ agree).
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Shadow
2018-03-17 16:13:59 UTC
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On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 15:49:36 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by OG
Where can I get an application I can load on a CD or USB flash that
will allow a Windows PC to boot off the CD or USB and have virus and
etc cleaning software on it ?
The two Pauls, and Shadow, have given you some answers.
Note that strictly, when booted from a CD, it isn't a "Windows PC", it
is just a PC. Paul says most of these CDs actually use Linux.
If it is a PC on which you normally do run Windows, then of course,
ideally, the virus scanning software should look for Windows viruses at
least, but AFAIK all of them do that at least.
I'm wary of your "and etc", mind. Most here would say steer clear of
registry cleaners, for example (I _mostly_ agree).
Kaspersky comes with a registry editor. I recovered my PC by
disabling the registry entry for a boot service that bluescreened the
PC before anything loaded (long time ago, I think it was an Acronis
driver/service).
But only use the registry editor if you have no other option.
Or if you have a backup.
The bad thing about Kaspersky is that you can't run it from a
VM (for example from Linux), and it's horribly slow from a CD or USB.
Plus the computer can't be used during the scan, which can take over
12 hours. But it is thorough ....
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Ken Blake
2018-03-17 17:19:50 UTC
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The bad thing about Kaspersky is that you can't run it from a
VM (for example from Linux), and it's horribly slow from a CD or USB.
Plus the computer can't be used during the scan, which can take over
12 hours. But it is thorough ....
It is not true that the computer can't be used during the scan.
Shadow
2018-03-17 19:52:02 UTC
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The bad thing about Kaspersky is that you can't run it from a
VM (for example from Linux), and it's horribly slow from a CD or USB.
Plus the computer can't be used during the scan, which can take over
12 hours. But it is thorough ....
It is not true that the computer can't be used during the scan.
True, you can open a command line and "have fun" with the few
utilities that come with it.

//basename, blkid, blockdev, bzip2, cat, chroot, cp, dash, dd, dmesg,
dmeventd, dmraid_scan, dmsetup, , dosfsck, e2fsck, eject, flock, fsck,
fsck.cramfs, fsck.ext2, fsck.ext3, fsck.ext4, fsck.ext4dev,
fsck.minix, fsck.msdos, fsck.ntfs, fsck.vfat, grep, gzip, initqueue,
insmodpost.sh, kbd_mode, killall5, kpartx, less, ln, loadkeys,
loginit, losetup, ls, mkdir, mkfifo, mknod, modprobe, mount, mv,
ntfsck, passwd, pidof, plymouth, plymouthd, readlink, rm, rmmod, sed,
setfont, sh, sleep, stty, switch_root, udevadm, udevd, umount,
uname.//

OR, you can connect to the internet, and use the horribly slow
browser, and risk being hacked. Can't remember root's password, but
it's a default. (you can change it).
OR, you can just let it run all night (disconnected from a
network) while you sleep. That's what I do.
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Ken Blake
2018-03-17 21:15:49 UTC
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The bad thing about Kaspersky is that you can't run it from a
VM (for example from Linux), and it's horribly slow from a CD or USB.
Plus the computer can't be used during the scan, which can take over
12 hours. But it is thorough ....
It is not true that the computer can't be used during the scan.
True, you can open a command line and "have fun" with the few
utilities that come with it.
Still not true. At least those are not the only things you can do. You
can do everything (almost everything? I didn't literally try
everything).
Post by Shadow
OR, you can just let it run all night (disconnected from a
network) while you sleep. That's what I do.
I ran it today. It took nowhere near all night, just two hours to scan
all three drives here, a total of 1TB of files.
Paul in Houston TX
2018-03-17 22:05:31 UTC
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The bad thing about Kaspersky is that you can't run it from a
VM (for example from Linux), and it's horribly slow from a CD or USB.
Plus the computer can't be used during the scan, which can take over
12 hours. But it is thorough ....
It is not true that the computer can't be used during the scan.
True, you can open a command line and "have fun" with the few
utilities that come with it.
Still not true. At least those are not the only things you can do. You
can do everything (almost everything? I didn't literally try
everything).
Post by Shadow
OR, you can just let it run all night (disconnected from a
network) while you sleep. That's what I do.
I ran it today. It took nowhere near all night, just two hours to scan
all three drives here, a total of 1TB of files.
I only have access to the command line or icon functions on the
KRD CD since the windows o/s is non functional.
This comp takes about 1-2 hrs per TB.
The laptops take about 3 hrs for one 250 GB drive.
Shadow
2018-03-18 02:36:27 UTC
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Post by Shadow
The bad thing about Kaspersky is that you can't run it from a
VM (for example from Linux), and it's horribly slow from a CD or USB.
Plus the computer can't be used during the scan, which can take over
12 hours. But it is thorough ....
It is not true that the computer can't be used during the scan.
True, you can open a command line and "have fun" with the few
utilities that come with it.
Still not true. At least those are not the only things you can do. You
can do everything (almost everything? I didn't literally try
everything).
Post by Shadow
OR, you can just let it run all night (disconnected from a
network) while you sleep. That's what I do.
I ran it today. It took nowhere near all night, just two hours to scan
all three drives here, a total of 1TB of files.
Fast. On high heuristic settings, I presume. Mine takes over
12 hours. Just over half a million files. Are you running it from USB
3 ?
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