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How can I convert .FLV videos to .MP4?
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g***@nospam.com
2018-05-12 13:27:01 UTC
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>

You're welcome.
David E. Ross
2018-05-12 14:51:44 UTC
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
If VLC can play .flv videos, then VLC can convert them to .mp4. Start
the process by selecting [Media > Convert/Save] on the VLC menu bar.
Just be careful because VLC has several options for .mp4, not all of
which are video.
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2018-05-12 17:10:12 UTC
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
A 30 second Google search, will find a Windows converter
that handles everything. But if you get adware on your
machine as a result of downloading it, then you can take
care of that yourself.

One way or another, everything useful is monetized.

If you use VLC for the job, you "get what they give you".
With tools that have some control of the profile, you
get to adjust the way you want it. If you want to turn
the Q up, or use a sharpening filter, you can do that
stuff the hard way and get video the way you want it.

Paul
Mike S
2018-05-13 04:35:36 UTC
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
I've never read anything Paul wrote that wasn't top notch.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-13 11:56:26 UTC
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Post by g***@nospam.com
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
I've never read anything Paul wrote that wasn't top notch.
+many!

He sometimes (usually in fact!) gives a far more detailed answer than
you could want, but usually that includes very useful information. I've
no idea how many of his posts I've marked "keep", on a wide variety of
subjects. And _on the whole_, explained in a manner that I think I am
following when I read it (though ask me to explain it a little later and
I couldn't always).

Since I'm aware that I too tend to give long answers, I identify. But he
knows a _lot_ (about a wide range of subjects).

(My main video processor is VirtualDub [I have 1.10.4 at the moment, but
I wouldn't present that as anywhere near universal, as it's very limited
in what it can accept. I'd use VLC too - it seems to be able to accept a
wide variety of things - if I could get my head round saving from it,
which I find incredibly cumbersome.)
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pjp
2018-05-13 05:46:56 UTC
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
I use an older version of Any Video Converter for almost all my
conversion needs. I convert to 720x480 res. Xvid (video) and 192 Kps mp3
for audio ... everything.

Once setup it's simply a matter of drag-n-drop to convert 99% of the
files I download.

Occassionally there is some file it will not convert in which case I use
a number of other specialized conversion programs to get it to something
it will convert. Worst case is if it plays I can convert it although
with some guality loss, e.g. play it onto my tv and use hardware dvd
player to record that then convert that. I avoid that at all cost
because as I already stated guality does seem to suffer (composite video
involved) in the digitial to analog to digitial conversion.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-13 12:15:28 UTC
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I use an older version of Any Video Converter for almost all my
Which version - and is it just that it does all you want, or is there a
specific reason you _don't_ use a more modern version? (And where did
you get it? oldversion and oldapps seem to be dying.)
Post by pjp
conversion needs. I convert to 720x480 res. Xvid (video) and 192 Kps mp3
for audio ... everything.
I'd use whatever the 625-line ("PAL", though that's a misnomer)
equivalent (must be 5xx) to your 480 (presumably for NTSC) - though I do
keep some "HD" ones too. And I wouldn't _up_convert anything that was
_lower_ res. - but then I view most videos on computer anyway (all with
VLC, I think), so don't have the need.

For audio, disc space is probably so cheap now that it really isn't
necessary to worry (though the space in more portable devices is more
limited), but I don't think I have _any_ 192 kbps mp3s; I find it
interesting to see how low they'll go without audible, or visible on a
spectrogram, degradation. I'd say the two biggest savings are: not
saving as stereo when they're not (I know the encoding takes _some_
account of that, but still), which is easily seen on an X-Y, and halving
(or occasionally quartering for some very old material) the _sample_
rate if the material has no components above half the rate, which even
now is a surprising amount of material. (And I do look on a spectrogram
rather than relying on my ears and the speakers in this laptop.) I use
GoldWave 5.58 (with Lame), though would like VBR which that combination
doesn't do.

I have quite a lot of 32 kbps, and one or two 8! (Alpine horn.)
Post by pjp
Once setup it's simply a matter of drag-n-drop to convert 99% of the
files I download.
Occassionally there is some file it will not convert in which case I use
a number of other specialized conversion programs to get it to something
Such as?
Post by pjp
it will convert. Worst case is if it plays I can convert it although
with some guality loss, e.g. play it onto my tv and use hardware dvd
player to record that then convert that. I avoid that at all cost
because as I already stated guality does seem to suffer (composite video
involved) in the digitial to analog to digitial conversion.
Wow, that's going to an extreme! And also I take it that your DVD
recorder is an early one from before anti-copy was everywhere.
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you say it in Latin")
Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-13 23:37:39 UTC
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On 2018/05/13, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-***@255soft.uk> wrote:

I don't see the original question so I'm ONLY responding to the fact that
this is on a Windows ng and the subject line is
"How can I convert .FLV videos to .MP4?"

I used to use Super freeware but they changed a long time ago so you have
to find an older version before they added their crapware on top of it.

My archived known-good Super is version 2010.bld.42 (Nov 7, 2010).

What works just as well is ShotCut, which is GREAT freeware.
https://shotcut.com/download/

Don't get fooled by the fact that ShotCut freeware is a video editor.
It easily converts from anything to anything else on Windows.

If you're downloading the FLV from the net, youtube-dl.exe with the added
ffmpeg executables will convert automatically from anything to anything
else, as part of the ripping/download process.

If you know more than that, let ME know, because that's all I know.
Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-13 23:43:57 UTC
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If you know more than that, let ME know, because that's all I know.
I forgot to mention Handbrake free software for Windows.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/HandBrake

Handbrake is nice because it's cross platform.

That makes these the solutions I recommend, in the order I recommend them.
1) Shotcut will convert almost anything to almost anything else
2) Handbrake works most of the time & has pre-set Android/Apple buttons
3) Youtubedl.exe will download and convert (using ffmpeg)
4) An old Super will convert almost anything to almost anything else

If you know of a better free solution than those, then let me know too.
(Usually Paul is good at finding hard-to-find things like that.)
Wildman
2018-05-14 04:31:22 UTC
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If you know more than that, let ME know, because that's all I know.
I forgot to mention Handbrake free software for Windows.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/HandBrake
Handbrake is nice because it's cross platform.
That makes these the solutions I recommend, in the order I recommend them.
1) Shotcut will convert almost anything to almost anything else
2) Handbrake works most of the time & has pre-set Android/Apple buttons
3) Youtubedl.exe will download and convert (using ffmpeg)
4) An old Super will convert almost anything to almost anything else
If you know of a better free solution than those, then let me know too.
(Usually Paul is good at finding hard-to-find things like that.)
You can use ffmpeg from the command line without any
front end. Works fine. In fact ffmpeg offers more
options than Handbrake.
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-14 11:16:09 UTC
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If you know more than that, let ME know, because that's all I know.
I forgot to mention Handbrake free software for Windows.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/HandBrake
Handbrake is nice because it's cross platform.
That makes these the solutions I recommend, in the order I recommend them.
1) Shotcut will convert almost anything to almost anything else
2) Handbrake works most of the time & has pre-set Android/Apple buttons
3) Youtubedl.exe will download and convert (using ffmpeg)
4) An old Super will convert almost anything to almost anything else
Thanks for the links to the first two, and the ordered list. Although I
was not the original enquirer, I've downloaded the first two. (I see
Handbrake now has 32-bit a little behind 64-bit - I guess the writing is
on the wall for 32-bit systems.)

Although I'm happy with my current YouTube downloader, does
Youtubedl.exe provide a GUI for ffmpeg, or do you have to incant?

(Anyone know where I can get the "old" Super [Suzuki Ichiro says his
"known-good Super is version 2010.bld.42 (Nov 7, 2010)"]?
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If you know of a better free solution than those, then let me know too.
(Usually Paul is good at finding hard-to-find things like that.)
(-:
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Mayayana
2018-05-14 12:38:56 UTC
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-***@255soft.uk> wrote

| Although I'm happy with my current YouTube downloader, does
| Youtubedl.exe provide a GUI for ffmpeg, or do you have to incant?
|

It's only command-line. I've considered writing a little
wrapper myself to make it more usable. That wouldn't
be hard. Just write a drag-drop script or EXE that
builds the command line, starts youtube-dl, and sends
it the line. But in general I find DownloadHelper does
what I need.

I was able to get one video recently with youtube-dl that
DH didn't see, so I'm keeping it around for future reference.
So far it's too much hassle to use and not critical enough
to fix.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-14 16:01:26 UTC
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| Although I'm happy with my current YouTube downloader, does
| Youtubedl.exe provide a GUI for ffmpeg, or do you have to incant?
|
It's only command-line. I've considered writing a little
wrapper myself to make it more usable. That wouldn't
be hard. Just write a drag-drop script or EXE that
builds the command line, starts youtube-dl, and sends
it the line. But in general I find DownloadHelper does
what I need.
Me too.
Post by Mayayana
I was able to get one video recently with youtube-dl that
DH didn't see, so I'm keeping it around for future reference.
Useful to know.
Post by Mayayana
So far it's too much hassle to use and not critical enough
to fix.
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Mayayana
2018-05-14 17:06:15 UTC
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG-***@255soft.uk> wrote

| > It's only command-line. I've considered writing a little
| >wrapper myself to make it more usable. That wouldn't
| >be hard. Just write a drag-drop script or EXE that
|
| Wouldn't be hard for _you_ (-:
|

Unfortuantely, yes. That's the trouble with all these
programmers who can't be bothered to finish the job properly.
A lot of people can't use the software they produce. But
who cares? Their friends can use it, and that's all they care
about.

If you want to experiment, below should work as a .vbs
file. When double-clicked it will show an inupt, in
which you'd paste the video URL and then click OK.

It can't really be made easier. The only way to automate
sending it the URL would be to read it from a browser window
via script, and that would get complicated. Or to make
it as a Firefox browser extension. But that seems to be a big
job.

'-------------------------------------
Dim SH, Ret, ComLine, sURL

sURL = InputBox("Enter full URL to video file.")
If Len(sURL) = 0 Then WScript.quit
Set SH = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
ComLine = "C:\youtube-dl.exe " & sURL
Ret = SH.Run(ComLine, , True)
Set SH = Nothing
'----------------------------------------

That's the basics, assuming youtube-dl is in C:\.
If you want options, or to choose where the download
goes, etc then you'd need to edit the comline
value. And try to avoid spaces. A space means
something in the command line. But if you do
something like putting youtube-dl in Program Files
then you'd need some fancy quoting to make it work.

"C:\Program Files\youtube-dl.exe " & sURL

would be interpreted as a command for C:\Program
and cause an error report something like:

"Unable to find C:\Program"

But if you perfect the command line in a script then
at least you'd never need to do it again. Just copy
the location bar URL, click, paste, and wait.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-14 19:50:06 UTC
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Thanks for this - post marked as keep.
John
Post by Mayayana
| > It's only command-line. I've considered writing a little
| >wrapper myself to make it more usable. That wouldn't
| >be hard. Just write a drag-drop script or EXE that
|
|
Unfortuantely, yes. That's the trouble with all these
programmers who can't be bothered to finish the job properly.
A lot of people can't use the software they produce. But
who cares? Their friends can use it, and that's all they care
about.
If you want to experiment, below should work as a .vbs
file. When double-clicked it will show an inupt, in
which you'd paste the video URL and then click OK.
It can't really be made easier. The only way to automate
sending it the URL would be to read it from a browser window
via script, and that would get complicated. Or to make
it as a Firefox browser extension. But that seems to be a big
job.
'-------------------------------------
Dim SH, Ret, ComLine, sURL
sURL = InputBox("Enter full URL to video file.")
If Len(sURL) = 0 Then WScript.quit
Set SH = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
ComLine = "C:\youtube-dl.exe " & sURL
Ret = SH.Run(ComLine, , True)
Set SH = Nothing
'----------------------------------------
That's the basics, assuming youtube-dl is in C:\.
If you want options, or to choose where the download
goes, etc then you'd need to edit the comline
value. And try to avoid spaces. A space means
something in the command line. But if you do
something like putting youtube-dl in Program Files
then you'd need some fancy quoting to make it work.
"C:\Program Files\youtube-dl.exe " & sURL
would be interpreted as a command for C:\Program
"Unable to find C:\Program"
But if you perfect the command line in a script then
at least you'd never need to do it again. Just copy
the location bar URL, click, paste, and wait.
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Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-14 18:34:10 UTC
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I was able to get one video recently with youtube-dl that
DH didn't see, so I'm keeping it around for future reference.
Useful to know.
We should probably put the link to Download Helper in this thread to help
the lurkers and noobs alike, so I looked it up and guess that it's this.

CHROME:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/video-downloadhelper/lmjnegcaeklhafolokijcfjliaokphfk?hl=uk

FIREFOX:
https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/

If those are not the links, please correct so that others can just click on
them, since you use the product so you'd know the real ones from the fakes.

I concur with Mr. Mayayana's answer to Mr. Gilliver's question that I just
use the command line and I make sure the three ffmpeg executables are in
the same directory as the command line, which I got from here.

YOUTUBE-DL.EXE COMMAND LINE:
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe

FFMPEG COMMAND LINE:
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-20170711-0780ad9-win64-static.zip

There is a GUI that is written I think in Python but it stinks in my very
humble opinion but if it works for you then let us know but it does not
work for me and never did.
https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.1/python-3.6.1-amd64.exe

BTW, the Mr. Frank suggested MediaCoder says "free try" so I try to stay
away from that stuff as it's often not free and hence filled with crap
(sometimes) and often drives me nuts and isn't a universal solution if it's
not free anyway so if others know for sure that MediaCoder is "really
free", please say so.
Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-14 18:44:14 UTC
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There is a GUI that is written I think in Python but it stinks in my very
humble opinion but if it works for you then let us know but it does not
work for me and never did.
https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.6.1/python-3.6.1-amd64.exe
Wrong URL. Much apologies for my mistake.
I am quoting from old logs so I do not know if these URLs are active.

From my logs.......

Here are other youtube downloader GUIs but they require Python or Java:
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/

youtube-dlG frontend (portable)
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui

youtube-dl-gui 1.52 (portable)
https://www.videohelp.com/software/youtube-dl-gui

yaYTDLFrontend (java portable)
https://bitbucket.org/qwertz19281/yaytdlfrontend/src

If you get these gui's to work you are better than me because I tried all a
long time ago and they all failed me miserably so I just use the command
line with ffmpeg in the same directory.
https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe
http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win64/static/ffmpeg-20170711-0780ad9-win64-static.zip
Mayayana
2018-05-14 19:45:24 UTC
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"Suzuki Ichiro" <***@ntteast.net> wrote

| We should probably put the link to Download Helper in this thread to help
| the lurkers and noobs alike, so I looked it up and guess that it's this.
|
| FIREFOX:
| https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/video-downloadhelper/
|

Why a Russian link? This is the developer's site:

https://www.downloadhelper.net/

One thing to be aware of, though: Many extensions
are gone, changed, or limited since Mozilla switched
to WebExtensions-only. I think that was something
like FF 58 or 59. I'm running FF 52 ESR and DH works
fine, but I can't speak for the WebExtension version.
Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-15 01:21:40 UTC
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https://www.downloadhelper.net/
One thing to be aware of, though: Many extensions
are gone, changed, or limited since Mozilla switched
to WebExtensions-only. I think that was something
like FF 58 or 59. I'm running FF 52 ESR and DH works
fine, but I can't speak for the WebExtension version.
Thanks for fixing that Mr. Mayayana.
I simply searched for the extensions, and that's what came up.

Who knows what country I was coming from (I'm always on VPN).
I don't use extensions on browsers anyway.

I was just trying to be a good Usenet citizen by posting links.
So it's good you corrected the links. Thanks.

When we all work together, we can all learn from each other.
Frank Slootweg
2018-05-15 08:56:58 UTC
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BTW, the Mr. Frank suggested MediaCoder says "free try" so I try to stay
away from that stuff as it's often not free and hence filled with crap
(sometimes) and often drives me nuts and isn't a universal solution if it's
not free anyway so if others know for sure that MediaCoder is "really
free", please say so.
What you saw was probably an *ad* (advertisement) for *another*
product.

That's what you get with the annoying Google 'AdChoices' ads.

When I go to the MediaCoder download page [1]. I get an ad for
something called '#1 iMedia Video Converter' and that ad indeed says
'Free Try'. However the download links for MediaCoder are a little lower
on the left, below the heading 'Get MediaCoder Now'. For the normal
MediaCoder, the link is <http://www.mediacoderhq.com/dlfull.htm> (which
page will show one or more ads! :-().

[1] <http://www.mediacoderhq.com/download.htm>
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2018-05-15 12:52:03 UTC
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Post by Suzuki Ichiro
BTW, the Mr. Frank suggested MediaCoder says "free try" so I try to stay
away from that stuff as it's often not free and hence filled with crap
(sometimes) and often drives me nuts and isn't a universal solution if it's
not free anyway so if others know for sure that MediaCoder is "really
free", please say so.
What you saw was probably an *ad* (advertisement) for *another*
product.
That's what you get with the annoying Google 'AdChoices' ads.
When I go to the MediaCoder download page [1]. I get an ad for
something called '#1 iMedia Video Converter' and that ad indeed says
'Free Try'. However the download links for MediaCoder are a little lower
on the left, below the heading 'Get MediaCoder Now'. For the normal
MediaCoder, the link is <http://www.mediacoderhq.com/dlfull.htm> (which
page will show one or more ads! :-().
[1] <http://www.mediacoderhq.com/download.htm>
Maybe this will help:
https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
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what is right to do. Potter Stewart
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-15 13:20:08 UTC
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https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
34 to choose from (-: )-:!
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2018-05-15 13:42:03 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
34 to choose from (-: )-:!
Everyone always suggests searches, which works fine for unique things that
not every single person asks for, like "shotcut" or "irfanview" or "media
player classic HD", but a common search such as "video converter" is
guaranteed to result in search results from advertiser hell.

All the advertisers in the world make sure they fit into that search.

Only someone who truly understands will point people to the right URL.
The rest say search for "video converter" with insouciance.

Even I did it by the results that Mr. Mayayana complained about rightly so.
At least I provided the search results, and not just the search.
But Mr. Mayayana provided the better resulting URL and I thank him for it.
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2018-05-15 13:59:04 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
34 to choose from (-: )-:!
Everyone always suggests searches, which works fine for unique things that
not every single person asks for, like "shotcut" or "irfanview" or "media
player classic HD", but a common search such as "video converter" is
guaranteed to result in search results from advertiser hell.
Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing. You obviously haven't visited
that link, which lists only the software hosted by Filehippo.

[snip irrelevancies]

Filehippo is a good source of software. Freeware, trialware, commercial.
It hosts pretty well all the common and well-respected freebies.

BTW, I d/l a couple of file-converters from there some time ago, but I
ain't gonna tell you which they are. Your ungracious snarky response
puts me off helping you.
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Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and
what is right to do. Potter Stewart
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-15 14:22:14 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
34 to choose from (-: )-:!
Everyone always suggests searches, which works fine for unique things that
not every single person asks for, like "shotcut" or "irfanview" or "media
player classic HD", but a common search such as "video converter" is
guaranteed to result in search results from advertiser hell.
Wolf's suggestion wasn't a broad search as such. (Certainly I agree if
you put something like that into Google, you deserve what you get,
unless you're experienced at interpreting Google results, and perhaps
specifying the search parameters in the first place.)
Post by Wolf K
Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing. You obviously haven't
visited that link, which lists only the software hosted by Filehippo.
[snip irrelevancies]
Filehippo is a good source of software. Freeware, trialware,
commercial. It hosts pretty well all the common and well-respected
freebies.
I agree, it's one of the better such sites.
Post by Wolf K
BTW, I d/l a couple of file-converters from there some time ago, but I
ain't gonna tell you which they are. Your ungracious snarky response
puts me off helping you.
Unfortunately, it also stops you helping others. I've found Ichiro's
posts in this thread on the whole quite helpful - yes, his response
[perhaps prompted by my comment )-:!] here wasn't the best it might have
been. He wasn't the poster of the original question (though the thread
has now spread into an IMO quite useful general discussion of video
converters).
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Wolf K
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Wolf K
https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
34 to choose from (-: )-:!
 Everyone always suggests searches, which works fine for unique
things that
not every single person asks for, like "shotcut" or "irfanview" or "media
player classic HD", but a common search such as "video converter" is
guaranteed to result in search results from advertiser hell.
Wolf's suggestion wasn't a broad search as such. (Certainly I agree if
you put something like that into Google, you deserve what you get,
unless you're experienced at interpreting Google results, and perhaps
specifying the search parameters in the first place.)
Post by Wolf K
Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing. You obviously haven't
visited that link, which lists only the software hosted by Filehippo.
[snip irrelevancies]
Filehippo is a good source of software. Freeware, trialware,
commercial. It hosts pretty well all the common and well-respected
freebies.
I agree, it's one of the better such sites.
Post by Wolf K
BTW, I d/l a couple of file-converters from there some time ago, but I
ain't gonna tell you which they are. Your ungracious snarky response
puts me off helping you.
Unfortunately, it also stops you helping others. I've found Ichiro's
posts in this thread on the whole quite helpful - yes, his response
[perhaps prompted by my comment )-:!] here wasn't the best it might have
been. He wasn't the poster of the original question (though the thread
has now spread into an IMO quite useful general discussion of video
converters).
OK, OK, I'll do what I can for everybody. Not that it's much. :-)
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Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and
what is right to do. Potter Stewart
Frank Slootweg
2018-05-15 15:29:12 UTC
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Post by Wolf K
https://filehippo.com/search?q=convert+video
34 to choose from (-: )-:!
Everyone always suggests searches, which works fine for unique things that
not every single person asks for, like "shotcut" or "irfanview" or "media
player classic HD", but a common search such as "video converter" is
guaranteed to result in search results from advertiser hell.
Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing. You obviously haven't visited
that link, which lists only the software hosted by Filehippo.
[snip irrelevancies]
Filehippo is a good source of software. Freeware, trialware, commercial.
It hosts pretty well all the common and well-respected freebies.
BTW, I d/l a couple of file-converters from there some time ago, but I
ain't gonna tell you which they are. Your ungracious snarky response
puts me off helping you.
Well, sooner or later Mr. EMAK was bound to fail in his role of
impersonating a Japanese poster.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichiro_Suzuki>
Paul
2018-05-14 19:12:20 UTC
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(Anyone know where I can get the "old" Super [Suzuki Ichiro says his
"known-good Super is version 2010.bld.42 (Nov 7, 2010)"]?
The VideoHelp site has some of these things listed at least.
SUPER went commercial (in a sense).

"erightsoft super"

https://www.videohelp.com/software/SUPER

"SUPER, Simplified Universal Player Encoder & Renderer.

A GUI to ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer, ffmpeg2theora & the
theora/vorbis RealProducer plugIn.

If you need a simple, yet very efficient tool to convert (encode)
or play any Multimedia file, without reading manuals or spending
long hours training, then SUPER is all you need. Supports most
video formats and also portable formats for PSP, Nintendo DS,
PS3, iPod, Zune, PocketPC and NEC, Nokia, Siemens, SonyEricsson
mobiles.

WARNING! The installation contains tons of bundleware and annoying
addons. Use something else like Handbrake, Xmedia Recode
instead! Or buy it for $14 without the Ad-supported
installation.
"

Like Wikipedia, videohelp usually has some information on
the adware status of the product.

29,508,222 bytes

SHA1: D79D41B6743AB32AE05F9E660A8169AFA427742B <=== compare to known-good
if you can find the info

http://www.oldversion.com/windows/super-v2010-build-42

It's packed with something. 7ZIP won't open it to examine
any archive inside. I would have to fire up a Linux VM and
use WINE for a look to see what's hiding in there.

It looks like build-46 is the last "small" one, and then
the build-48 and later, balloon in size.

They learned their lesson with OpenCandy, in that originally
the payload was in the package,, and so if you noted "bloating",
you had some idea there was a "surprise" inside. Now, I think
they've switched to having the adware loader, download the
junk off the net instead. So the old "bloat" method of
testing, isn't as worthwhile as it used to be. Still,
seeing a package double in size, is not a good sign.
There must be a whole Christmas Turkey in there, for the
later ones.

Paul
Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-15 01:28:35 UTC
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The VideoHelp site has some of these things listed at least.
SUPER went commercial (in a sense).
I think I got my old Super from there, where my log file tells me I got it
from this URL (which is no longer alive, according to my log file).
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER/old-versions

My log also mentions to put this in the HOSTS file before running even the
build 42 (but I don't think it's needed for the earlier builds).
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.com
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.info
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.net
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.org
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.com
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.info
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.net
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.org
127.0.0.1 astranorth.blogdns.com

But really, ShotCut kills Super (IMHO) so I don't deal with Super anymore.

In my log are these warnings ... from years ago I think.
This requires an installer so don't use it:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/audio_video/convert_video/super.cfm

This is the developers site, which only has the latest (ad) version:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
http://www.erightsoft.com/Superdc.html

This says it doesn't have bundleware but it cost money:
http://www.erightsoft.com/GetNOBUNDLESfile.php?c=130

This is the latest version of Super bundleware (with ads):
http://downloadcare.gotdns.com/GetFile5.php?SUPERsetup.exe

This says it has the older versions, sans bundleware:
https://www.videohelp.com/software/SUPER/old-versions

BTW, let me run a hash on my version of the uninstalled installer.
You don't know if you can trust me but you can at least check the hash.


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Checksum information
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Name: SUPERsetup2010.build42.exe
Size: 29508222 bytes (28 MB)

SHA256: A764863C84FE0A496AD20F3E54FC1C4D60BCB0559726267FD593A420996DFB1E

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OK
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Checksum information
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Name: SUPER_v2010.build38.exe
Size: 29426129 bytes (28 MB)

SHA256: 3513D01415914AE8ADD728EADCCED3C8F98D6DB0FD8E83AB3DA6FE122C27AA16

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OK
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Paul
2018-05-15 02:00:28 UTC
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Post by Paul
The VideoHelp site has some of these things listed at least.
SUPER went commercial (in a sense).
I think I got my old Super from there, where my log file tells me I got it
from this URL (which is no longer alive, according to my log file).
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER/old-versions
My log also mentions to put this in the HOSTS file before running even the
build 42 (but I don't think it's needed for the earlier builds).
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.com
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.info
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.net
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.org
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.com
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.info
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.net
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.org
127.0.0.1 astranorth.blogdns.com
But really, ShotCut kills Super (IMHO) so I don't deal with Super anymore.
In my log are these warnings ... from years ago I think.
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/audio_video/convert_video/super.cfm
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
http://www.erightsoft.com/Superdc.html
http://www.erightsoft.com/GetNOBUNDLESfile.php?c=130
http://downloadcare.gotdns.com/GetFile5.php?SUPERsetup.exe
https://www.videohelp.com/software/SUPER/old-versions
BTW, let me run a hash on my version of the uninstalled installer.
You don't know if you can trust me but you can at least check the hash.
---------------------------
Checksum information
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Name: SUPERsetup2010.build42.exe
Size: 29508222 bytes (28 MB)
SHA256: A764863C84FE0A496AD20F3E54FC1C4D60BCB0559726267FD593A420996DFB1E
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OK
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Checksum information
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Name: SUPER_v2010.build38.exe
Size: 29426129 bytes (28 MB)
SHA256: 3513D01415914AE8ADD728EADCCED3C8F98D6DB0FD8E83AB3DA6FE122C27AA16
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OK
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The build42 is the same one I got.

Paul
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2018-05-15 13:18:33 UTC
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Post by Suzuki Ichiro
Post by Paul
The VideoHelp site has some of these things listed at least.
SUPER went commercial (in a sense).
I think I got my old Super from there, where my log file tells me I got it
from this URL (which is no longer alive, according to my log file).
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SUPER/old-versions My log also
That page is still live (as of 2018-5-15), and has versions: 2018 build
72, which I assume is the current version (along with "WARNING! The
installation contains tons of bundleware and annoying addons. Use
something else like Handbrake, Xmedia Recode instead! Or buy it for $14
without the Ad-supported installation.", File size:67.7MB, but also
versions from 2015 (10.7 MB) back to 2012 (4.6 MB!). [I. e. it doesn't
go back to 2010.]
Post by Paul
Post by Suzuki Ichiro
mentions to put this in the HOSTS file before running even the
build 42 (but I don't think it's needed for the earlier builds).
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.com
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.info
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.net
127.0.0.1 erightsoft.org
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.com
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.info
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.net
127.0.0.1 www.erightsoft.org
127.0.0.1 astranorth.blogdns.com
Useful tip, thanks!
Post by Paul
Post by Suzuki Ichiro
But really, ShotCut kills Super (IMHO) so I don't deal with Super anymore.
I've read other recommendations of ShotCut (I think in the video editing
context), so might look at that. [There are just too many of these
things (-:!]
[]
Post by Paul
Post by Suzuki Ichiro
https://www.videohelp.com/software/SUPER/old-versions
(That's the one you mentioned above.)
Post by Paul
Post by Suzuki Ichiro
BTW, let me run a hash on my version of the uninstalled installer.
You don't know if you can trust me but you can at least check the hash.
---------------------------
Checksum information
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Name: SUPERsetup2010.build42.exe
Size: 29508222 bytes (28 MB)
A764863C84FE0A496AD20F3E54FC1C4D60BCB0559726267FD593A420996DFB1E
---------------------------
OK ---------------------------
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Checksum information
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Name: SUPER_v2010.build38.exe
Size: 29426129 bytes (28 MB)
3513D01415914AE8ADD728EADCCED3C8F98D6DB0FD8E83AB3DA6FE122C27AA16
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OK ---------------------------
The build42 is the same one I got.
Paul
Do you know where you got it? (Though [a] given that even the 2012
version is only 4.7 MB and [b] Ichiro's comments re ShotCut, I don't
think I'll worry. [I'm assuming Ichiro is your individual name: no
offence intended if it isn't.])
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"WARNING! The
installation contains tons of bundleware and annoying addons. Use
something else like Handbrake, Xmedia Recode instead!
I have not tried Xmedia Recode but I trust the videohelp site suggestion.
Googling for the home site I find this which looks good I think.
https://www.xmedia-recode.de/en/download.html

Also there is videohelp site usually but I prefer the home site normally.
https://www.videohelp.com/software/XMedia-Recode
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I've read other recommendations of ShotCut (I think in the video editing
context), so might look at that. [There are just too many of these
things (-:!]
ShotCut, like all video editors, seems complex at first glance.
There are MANY youtube videos which make it easy to see what to do.
For video CONVERSION it is a simple two step process.
The selection of outputs is so big that it is confusing all by itself.
There are many many many outputs possible. Many many many.

So my main advice is to not let the power scare you.
Load it and look up how to convert the video and it will work.

Very powerful. But very many buttons. There is a learning curve.
It is not like Super or any other simple converter.
It's an editor that can convert which is the easy part of editing.
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I use an older version of Any Video Converter for almost all my
Which version - and is it just that it does all you want, or is there a
specific reason you _don't_ use a more modern version? (And where did
you get it? oldversion and oldapps seem to be dying.)
Post by pjp
conversion needs. I convert to 720x480 res. Xvid (video) and 192 Kps mp3
for audio ... everything.
I'd use whatever the 625-line ("PAL", though that's a misnomer)
equivalent (must be 5xx) to your 480 (presumably for NTSC) - though I do
keep some "HD" ones too. And I wouldn't _up_convert anything that was
_lower_ res. - but then I view most videos on computer anyway (all with
VLC, I think), so don't have the need.
For audio, disc space is probably so cheap now that it really isn't
necessary to worry (though the space in more portable devices is more
limited), but I don't think I have _any_ 192 kbps mp3s; I find it
interesting to see how low they'll go without audible, or visible on a
spectrogram, degradation. I'd say the two biggest savings are: not
saving as stereo when they're not (I know the encoding takes _some_
account of that, but still), which is easily seen on an X-Y, and halving
(or occasionally quartering for some very old material) the _sample_
rate if the material has no components above half the rate, which even
now is a surprising amount of material. (And I do look on a spectrogram
rather than relying on my ears and the speakers in this laptop.) I use
GoldWave 5.58 (with Lame), though would like VBR which that combination
doesn't do.
I have quite a lot of 32 kbps, and one or two 8! (Alpine horn.)
Post by pjp
Once setup it's simply a matter of drag-n-drop to convert 99% of the
files I download.
Occassionally there is some file it will not convert in which case I use
a number of other specialized conversion programs to get it to something
Such as?
Post by pjp
it will convert. Worst case is if it plays I can convert it although
with some guality loss, e.g. play it onto my tv and use hardware dvd
player to record that then convert that. I avoid that at all cost
because as I already stated guality does seem to suffer (composite video
involved) in the digitial to analog to digitial conversion.
Wow, that's going to an extreme! And also I take it that your DVD
Any Video Converter 5.7.8. I see no reason to update it as it does all I
expect and it's fast enough doing it.
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
VLC plays all my old .FLV videos on my phone flawlessly, without
spyware, nagware, or ANY in-app-purchase BS. It makes me wonder why Paul
has to overly complicate all of his responses in these groups? It's like
he is intentionally trying to confuse us. (smh)
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
VLC plays all my old .FLV videos on my phone flawlessly, without
spyware, nagware, or ANY in-app-purchase BS. It makes me wonder why Paul
has to overly complicate all of his responses in these groups? It's like
he is intentionally trying to confuse us. (smh)
Because the question was "How can I convert .FLV videos to
.MP4?", NOT "How can I PLAY .FLV videos".
Paul answered the question.
As did I.
VLC can play just about anything. Just check you didn't
install one of the rogue copies that used to abound on Google. They
were payware/malware. VLC is free.
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We have a new policy - Google 2012
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2018-05-13 18:33:20 UTC
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In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
VLC plays all my old .FLV videos on my phone flawlessly, without
spyware, nagware, or ANY in-app-purchase BS. It makes me wonder why Paul
has to overly complicate all of his responses in these groups? It's like
he is intentionally trying to confuse us. (smh)
James has a task. Let's break it down.

"I wanna play this here .flv on my Android smartphone.

1) comp.mobile.android group *only*

Subject: Wanna play .flv file
Body: How do I play a .flv file on my smartphone ?

Answer comes back in ten minutes.

This is what I call a "pull" technique, in that you're
using an on-platform solution to "pull in" a foreign format.

Wait ten minutes until the Android person answers.

OK, now lets assume all the people in the Android group
have dropped dead from old age. Or, perhaps, for some
strange reason, Android *hates* certain file formats.
I don't know, I don't own an Android.

Well, what about a "push" solution. Sure, you can cross-post
it, but you're well off focus at this point, and just about
any answer could come out.

2) microsoft.public.windowsxp.general and others

Subject: How can I convert .FLV videos to .MP4?
Body: It appears that android does not know how
to handle these .FLV videos. It plays the sound,
but not the visual part.

So already, your superior technical knowledge is
showing. You're even showing the people in the
comp.mobile.android group, that there's "no solution".

So great, I look up the platform capabilities, which
looks like MP4 baseline. And I craft a "push" solution
for you, while the Android group remains silent. I made
a solution that to the best of my ability, would play
on the Android by itself.

What's not to like ?

*******

1) Put the question, where it belongs. " comp.mobile.android *only* "

2) Think clearly about the objective.

3) Ask the obvious question first. "Wanna play .flv file"

Paul
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vlc is sometimes difficult.

But this, is a slick item, and we use it.....
It is a great converter.

http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html
Post by g***@nospam.com
In the early days of Youtube, many videos were in .FLV format. I save
videos to my own computer, that I enjoy. This is a good thing, because
there were some videos available back then, which are no longer on
youtube. These are great videos, and I wanted to show them to someone
using my android smartphone.
It appears that android does not know how to handle these .FLV videos.
It plays the sound, but not the visual part.
Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
You're welcome.
Suzuki Ichiro
2018-05-13 23:50:53 UTC
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Forget Paul's long-winded crapola. Why re-invent the wheel?
VLC on Andriod can play anything you throw at it.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.videolan.vlc>
Just saw this, where Paul is generally GREAT at finding things that most of
you can't find if your life depended on it, so I respect Paul's acumen.

I posted to the separate standalone Gilliver post (I read Usenet backward)
these FREE converters (that Prism thing doesn't seem to be free so it's
useless for most people).

I don't see the question other than in the subject line, but this is my
recommendation where I personally have used each of those free solutions
for years so I vouch that they work on Windows.

1) Shotcut will convert almost anything to almost anything else
2) Handbrake works most of the time & has pre-set Android/Apple buttons
3) Youtubedl.exe will download and convert (using ffmpeg)
4) An old Super will convert almost anything to almost anything else

For just PLAYING stuff, it's true that the free VLC pretty much plays
anything, but it's not a converter AFAIK. Also, the free MPC (they renamed
it to a different name a while ago) with the free K-Lite Codec packs will
also pretty much play anything.

If you know of a better free solution than those, then let me know too.
(Usually Paul is good at finding hard-to-find things like that.)
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