Post by Ohnow
Delete trash only deletes what is visible.
Things like Ctrl-A to select all do not work.
4 GB of files only says how much space they occupy, not how many files.
Could be just 1 file at 4 GB. Obviously that's not the case with you
but it's still unknown how MANY files regardless of total size that you
want to delete. Looks like my suspicion was correct in that Empty Trash
only purges the currently listed item within a web page boundary. I ran
into this when deleting old calls in Google Voice. No idea why Google
thinks "Empty Trash" really means "Empty Trach on only the items listed
in this page".
Just to check: are you selecting the Trash folder by clicking on it in
the left pane of Drive's webclient, clicking on the "Trash" folder name
at the top which drops down a menu, and selecting "Empty trash" from
there? I've read where others say that should empty the entire Trash
folder, not just a page at a time.
Ctrl-A wouldn't help, anyway. At best, that would only select the items
listed within the current web page. That's what Empty Trash apparently
does according to your report. What is needed is a checkbox for All
Items (across all pages for the entire list). You could send feedback.
Since their local client never empties the Trash folder (because it
doesn't list all folders, just those synchronized from PC to server),
maybe they think their users will never empty the Trash folder (only
available using their webclient). Yet I remember running out of free
space and having to do what you are doing now: empty trash (for the
current page) and repeat ad nauseum until the "delete by page" finally
spans all entries.
They don't make their client work well with their service. Seems they
expect their users to use their webclient all the time which means users
would be more likely to visit the Trash folder more frequently. That
doesn't work with all users. My aunt has something like over 3000
e-mails she leaves in her Inbox instead of deleting them or moving them
into subfolders. She constantly has to use the search to find even a
recent e-mail. She would never know that she got spammed because she
subscribes to so many shit lists that it is impossible to different spam
from what she subscribed. Some users are slobs. Google enables the
slobbery by not having the client periodically or on demand purge the
Trash folder or expiring anything in the Trash folder after either a
fixed interval, like 30 days, or by some user-configurable threshold.
Microsoft's OneDrive expires items in its Recycle Bin that are over 30
days old. However, items in the Recycle Bin do NOT count against your
space quota. I just checked and the oldest item in the Recycle Bin is a
month old. Since I backup data files everyday to OneDrive, and have
been doing this for many months, I can see items in the Recycle Bin do
expire after 30 days. I only run the data file backup once per day, so
there are only 30 entries in the Recycle Bin. That is not long enough
to cause paging of the list, so I don't know if Microsoft is the same as
Google in deleting only what is listed within the current page.
Google Drive's quota is reduced not only by the files you store there
but also by the total size of all your e-mails in the Gmail account.
Google Photos also impacts quota unless you let Google compress your
photos. If Google gets to compress (reduce quality) of your photos then
those photos are not counted against your Drive quota. If you upload
photos at full resolution, they are treated just like uploaded files and
reduce your quota, well, if the photos are greater than 2048x2048 and
the videos are longer than 15 minutes. Documents created with Google
Docs, Google Sheets, or Google Slides do not count against your Drive
If you are trying to quickly free up some space in your Drive account,
click on the "xx.x MB of xxx used" statistic at the bottom of the left
pane. You can then click on the "Storage used" column header to sort by
size. Alas, this doesn't tell in which folder an item is held but it
will point at the fattest files to let you decide whether or not to keep
them. Within a folder, you can sort only filename and last modified,
not on size. Drive's webclient doesn't have the most robust feature
set. It is probably dumbed down for use on toy computers (aka
smartphones). OneDrive's webclient lets you sort files by size within a
I rarely use the webclients to Google Drive or Microsoft OneDrive. I
use the local client for synchronization between hosts to those
accounts. After reminiscining for several minutes, about the only time
that I remember using Drive's webclient was to empty out its Trash
folder because items there count against the Drive storage quota, and
that's because I hit the maximum storage quota (probably while trying to
save backups there). Never had to bother using OneDrive's webclient to
empty out its Recycle Bin which expires items over 30 days old.
For Google Drive, I have 115 GB for storage quota of which only 62 MB is
currently used. I think as your reputation builds at Google then they
dole out more space. For Microsoft OneDrive, I have 1 TB of quota
(because I subscribe to Office 365) of which I only 1 GB is used.
Obviously I don't much use any cloud storage. What if the network goes
down or I'm somewhere there isn't any network. Local storage is media
still where most of my files are found. I think the default for new
OneDrive accounts is only 5 GB and for Google Drive is 15 GB.