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Music from .MP4
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WinUser
2017-03-22 16:46:08 UTC
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I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.

Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?

If not, is there a free application to do this?

TIA
Wolf K
2017-03-22 17:01:25 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
Search on "extract audio from mp4". Lots to choose from.
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Paul
2017-03-22 17:03:47 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
I like FFMPEG. It works with movies, sound and video.

It's command line. The following is an example only, but is
likely to work for your test.MP4 as well.

ffmpeg -i test.m4a -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 192k test.mp3

FFMPEG is normally available as source, however there are
build-meisters who make available very nice binaries.

https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/

(Example of a Static build, a nightly from February...)
https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/static/ffmpeg-20170225-7e4f32f-win32-static.zip

You want 32bit, static, because the static version, the ffmpeg.exe
file (36MB) has all the DLLs baked into the executable. That means
your copy of ffmpeg.exe is portable and can be put anywhere you
need to use it. That's why I prefer static builds.

The included ffplay.exe, plays stuff for you. So you can
verify that at least *something* will play it.

Paul
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2017-03-23 00:46:15 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
I like FFMPEG. It works with movies, sound and video.
+1
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It's command line. The following is an example only, but is
likely to work for your test.MP4 as well.
ffmpeg -i test.m4a -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 192k test.mp3
You typoed (sorry, but the OP might mess up)

ffmpeg -i test.mp4 -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 192k test.mp3

(though I use "-q 2" in the place of "-b:a 192k"

Or he could just copy the stream, see what it is with
Mediainfo and (I'm assuming it's aac)

ffmpeg -i test.mp4 -c:a copy test.aac

It's blinking fast (you blink, it's done) and since no
re-coding is done, there is no quality loss. It just extracts the
original soundtrack as is.
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FFMPEG is normally available as source, however there are
build-meisters who make available very nice binaries.
https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/
(Example of a Static build, a nightly from February...)
https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/static/ffmpeg-20170225-7e4f32f-win32-static.zip
You want 32bit, static, because the static version, the ffmpeg.exe
file (36MB) has all the DLLs baked into the executable. That means
your copy of ffmpeg.exe is portable and can be put anywhere you
need to use it. That's why I prefer static builds.
The included ffplay.exe, plays stuff for you. So you can
verify that at least *something* will play it.
Paul
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Lucifer Morningstar
2017-04-22 23:44:29 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
I like FFMPEG. It works with movies, sound and video.
It's command line.
Avanti is a GUI for ffmpeg.
Post by Paul
The following is an example only, but is
likely to work for your test.MP4 as well.
ffmpeg -i test.m4a -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 192k test.mp3
FFMPEG is normally available as source, however there are
build-meisters who make available very nice binaries.
https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/
(Example of a Static build, a nightly from February...)
https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/static/ffmpeg-20170225-7e4f32f-win32-static.zip
You want 32bit, static, because the static version, the ffmpeg.exe
file (36MB) has all the DLLs baked into the executable. That means
your copy of ffmpeg.exe is portable and can be put anywhere you
need to use it. That's why I prefer static builds.
The included ffplay.exe, plays stuff for you. So you can
verify that at least *something* will play it.
Paul
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2017-03-22 19:58:00 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
As others have said, there are lots; I presume with a name like
"WinUser" you'd prefer a non-command-line one. There are still plenty:
the couple I use on XP are Free Video to Audio Converter and AoA Audio
Extractor. GoldWave (the audio editor) can load (audio from) at least
one movie format, too (so obviously can save it).
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D***@MadCow.net
2017-03-22 20:44:28 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
VLC is free and does lots of transcoding. I use it whenever I want to
create an audio file (to put on my iPod ) from a MP4 or MPG file that
started as a TS file captured from my DVR.

Look at these to get you started:

https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo_New/

http://www.videolan.org/streaming-features.html

If you don't have VLC, get it here:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html


DC
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2017-03-22 21:26:58 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
VLC is free and does lots of transcoding. I use it whenever I want to
create an audio file (to put on my iPod ) from a MP4 or MPG file that
started as a TS file captured from my DVR.
https://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo_New/
http://www.videolan.org/streaming-features.html
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html
DC
This may be more helpful...

http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/15/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-files-using-vlc-media-player/
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2017-03-23 21:18:10 UTC
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VLC is free and does lots of transcoding. I use it whenever I want to
create an audio file (to put on my iPod ) from a MP4 or MPG file that
started as a TS file captured from my DVR.
[]
Post by D***@MadCow.net
This may be more helpful...
http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/15/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-files-u
sing-vlc-media-player/
I like VLC, but have always struggled to use its convert abilities, so
had a look at the above. With two different browsers, I see text with
large gaps in it: are these screenshots in your browser? (If so, can
some kind soul post a .pdf of it somewhere?)
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Paul
2017-03-23 21:53:28 UTC
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VLC is free and does lots of transcoding. I use it whenever I want to
create an audio file (to put on my iPod ) from a MP4 or MPG file that
started as a TS file captured from my DVR.
[]
Post by D***@MadCow.net
This may be more helpful...
http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/15/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-files-u
sing-vlc-media-player/
I like VLC, but have always struggled to use its convert abilities, so
had a look at the above. With two different browsers, I see text with
large gaps in it: are these screenshots in your browser? (If so, can
some kind soul post a .pdf of it somewhere?)
Loading Image...

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J. P. Gilliver (John)
2017-03-23 22:24:43 UTC
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VLC is free and does lots of transcoding. I use it whenever I want to
create an audio file (to put on my iPod ) from a MP4 or MPG file that
started as a TS file captured from my DVR.
[]
Post by D***@MadCow.net
This may be more helpful...
http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/15/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-files-u
sing-vlc-media-player/
I like VLC, but have always struggled to use its convert abilities,
so had a look at the above. With two different browsers, I see text
with large gaps in it: are these screenshots in your browser? (If so,
can some kind soul post a .pdf of it somewhere?)
https://s1.postimg.org/g0g3vmfnj/example.gif
Paul
Wow, that was quick - thanks!

Out of curiosity: (a) which browser (and version) do you use, (b) how do
you _do_ that, get the whole page (or, as in this case, even better, a
selection of it) into one .gif?
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Paul
2017-03-23 22:34:40 UTC
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VLC is free and does lots of transcoding. I use it whenever I want to
create an audio file (to put on my iPod ) from a MP4 or MPG file that
started as a TS file captured from my DVR.
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Post by D***@MadCow.net
This may be more helpful...
http://www.ghacks.net/2011/07/15/how-to-extract-audio-from-video-files-u
sing-vlc-media-player/
I like VLC, but have always struggled to use its convert abilities,
so had a look at the above. With two different browsers, I see text
with large gaps in it: are these screenshots in your browser? (If
so, can some kind soul post a .pdf of it somewhere?)
https://s1.postimg.org/g0g3vmfnj/example.gif
Paul
Wow, that was quick - thanks!
Out of curiosity: (a) which browser (and version) do you use, (b) how do
you _do_ that, get the whole page (or, as in this case, even better, a
selection of it) into one .gif?
Practice :-)

I have a print driver that can "print to Postscript" a 24 inch by 108 inch page.
This allows longer web pages to be acquired in one shot. It also helps
with web pages, where subsequent pages in a print, the frame goes
"underneath" the page and you get white for pages 2 through n. So if
you can manage to fit a web page into a single sheet, it helps.

The only reason a print cannot be made larger than that, is
108 inches is the coordinate space limit for Postscript (in this case).

Then, I pull that into GIMP and convert it to a GIF. In this case, I scaled
the image down a bit so it wouldn't get flagged on PostImg.

You can never really tell what PostImg is going to do. Strictly speaking,
the image dimensions are too big. The image should have been auto-scaled
down by the web site (which would ruin it). So I don't know why I got away
with it. But, I had to try.

Paul
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2017-03-23 23:09:51 UTC
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Wow, that was quick - thanks!
Out of curiosity: (a) which browser (and version) do you use, (b)
how do you _do_ that, get the whole page (or, as in this case, even
better, a selection of it) into one .gif?
Practice :-)

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The only reason a print cannot be made larger than that, is
108 inches is the coordinate space limit for Postscript (in this case).
Then, I pull that into GIMP and convert it to a GIF. In this case, I scaled
the image down a bit so it wouldn't get flagged on PostImg.

The original (FSVO!) .pdf would of course have been useful in that it
contains text, not a giant image; I was just interested in how you did
the .GIF. Thanks for the explanation!
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Wow, that was quick - thanks!
Out of curiosity: (a) which browser (and version) do you use, (b)
how do you _do_ that, get the whole page (or, as in this case, even
better, a selection of it) into one .gif?
Practice :-)

Post by Paul
The only reason a print cannot be made larger than that, is
108 inches is the coordinate space limit for Postscript (in this case).
Then, I pull that into GIMP and convert it to a GIF. In this case, I scaled
the image down a bit so it wouldn't get flagged on PostImg.

The original (FSVO!) .pdf would of course have been useful in that it
contains text, not a giant image; I was just interested in how you did
the .GIF. Thanks for the explanation!
I don't have a Dropbox account, so I have to be
crafty to share info. And use a free site.

I don't know of any free sites that allow sharing PDFs,
especially because of the potential for copyright
issues (and takedown notices etc). You can't run
a sharing facility and be running around all day
with a mop and pail, removing content.

Paul
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I don't know of any free sites that allow sharing PDFs,
especially because of the potential for copyright
issues (and takedown notices etc). You can't run
a sharing facility and be running around all day
with a mop and pail, removing content.
Paul
Understood. Thanks.
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
Hi

xrecode 3
will do it
http://xrecode.com/xrecode3/#Download

Regards
Reinhard
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2017-03-23 14:16:45 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
http://www.pazera-software.com/products/audio-extractor/


I use this to extract audio from videos made with my Canon camera.
Very easy to use.

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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
http://www.pazera-software.com/products/audio-extractor/
I use this to extract audio from videos made with my Canon camera.
Very easy to use.
-dan z-
Despite being stand-alone, the installer does two call-homes (though
continues if these are blocked).

Seems a good, fast converter: looks like it uses FFMPEG, and shows you
in a DOS-like window what it's doing!
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Wolf K
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
Free video to MP3 converter works well enough for me.

For more possibilities try:
http://filehippo.com/search?q=extract+audio+from+video
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WinUser
2017-03-23 15:11:10 UTC
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Thanks all !

I can and did search BUT I was looking for your opinion on something you
used and how well it worked.

I have a few new things to look at now.

Does anyone know if Nero can extract audio from movies ?
Paul
2017-03-23 16:33:21 UTC
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Thanks all !
I can and did search BUT I was looking for your opinion on something you
used and how well it worked.
I have a few new things to look at now.
Does anyone know if Nero can extract audio from movies ?
Why not see if they have a "Trial" version, download it and see ?

http://www.nero.com/ena/products/nero-recode/?vlang=us

If you have Nero on your machine already, I don't recommend
mixing Nero products on the same computer. Use a second computer
to run the trial, before you decide to buy it. Nero is the
"King of Cruft" in terms of the amount of bloat they'll put
on a PC. And I don't trust them to mix previous paid licenses
with new trial versions, without breaking something. Sometimes
usage of a Trial, causes a paid version to "break".

Paul
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2017-04-22 23:42:50 UTC
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
ffmpeg
Use with Avanti GUI,
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
ffmpeg
Use with Avanti GUI,
There is also xrecode II and newer xrecode III
http://xrecode.com/xrecode3/#Download

and TEncoder (using ffmpeg) http://tencoder.sourceforge.net/

Regards
Reinhard
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Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
ffmpeg
Use with Avanti GUI,
There is also xrecode II and newer xrecode III
http://xrecode.com/xrecode3/#Download
and TEncoder (using ffmpeg) http://tencoder.sourceforge.net/
Regards
Reinhard
I have these three (all free and these versions work under XP - websites
may not be for versions I have):

Free Video to Audio Converter version 2015 6.5.7
http://www.free-audio-editor.com/freevideotoaudioconverter.php

AoA Audio Extractor Basic version 2.3.7
http://www.aoamedia.com/audioextractor.htm

Pazera Free Audio Extractor 2.4 (32-bit)
http://www.pazera-software.com/products/audio-extractor/ (scroll down
past the lists!)

All seem to do the job well; I think all I got from links people have
posted here (here being one of '7.general or 'xp.general).

Goldwave can also load (the audio from) several video file formats,
which of course it can then save in whatever format you want).

What I find difficult to do (with all of them - though I _think_ they
all _can_ do it - is to select the option to _not_ recode, but just
extract the audio. They all _seem_ to want to recode it for you, which
obviously takes longer and degrades (though usually not noticeably so)
the audio. (It doesn't help, of course, when the original is e. g. coded
as stereo but is in fact mono, or is coded at a much higher bit or
sample rate than is justified by the actual content, presumably because
it is thought [incorrectly in some cases!] to be insignificant compared
to the video so may as well just shove it to maximum.)
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Shadow
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I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.

MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.

To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.

http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows

After it's installed, you can right click on the .MP4 and see what
streams it contains. Scroll down to the audio one, and look at the
format

Here's an example:

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile : LC
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 3 min 45 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 72.0 kb/s
Maximum bit rate : 75.9 kb/s
Channel(s) : 1 channel
Channel positions : Front: C
Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 spf)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.94 MiB (22%)

The important bit is "Format".

So to extract THIS audio WITHOUT re-encoding, I need to set the target
to AAC

ffmpeg -i input -c:a copy output.AAC

(where input is the COMPLETE name of the .MP4, MKV, AVI,
whatever, using double quotes if it has a space in the name)

Example

ffmpeg -i "My Favorite Music.MP4" -c:a copy "My Favorite
Music.AAC"

If Mediainfo showed a MP3, I'd use:

ffmpeg -i "My Favorite Music.MP4" -c:a copy "My Favorite
Music.MP3"

The extraction is as fast as your HD can write. A few seconds
for an hour of music, and there is NO distortion, as the stream is
COPIED, not re-encoded.

If you want to check the bitrate of the music after
extraction, use this tool:

http://spek.cc/

You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
piss-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
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J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Post by Shadow
I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.
MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.
To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows
To determine the streams, yes; to do what the OP wanted (extract the
audio), no. Although what you've explained/described is a good way to do
it. But - given that the post was/is in Windows 'groups - I think the OP
would probably prefer a GUI method. (Of which I've posted three, and
others have others.) Granted, the three I use don't make it _obvious_
how to do an extraction without recoding, though I think they _can_.
[]
Post by Shadow
You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
piss-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s
Depends what it is wanted for. For listening to on a variety of the
portable devices around now, 96k probably can be acceptable for some
material.
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Post by Shadow
I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.
MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.
To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows
To determine the streams, yes; to do what the OP wanted (extract the
audio), no. Although what you've explained/described is a good way to do
it. But - given that the post was/is in Windows 'groups - I think the OP
would probably prefer a GUI method. (Of which I've posted three, and
others have others.) Granted, the three I use don't make it _obvious_
how to do an extraction without recoding, though I think they _can_.
[]
Post by Shadow
You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
piss-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s
Depends what it is wanted for. For listening to on a variety of the
portable devices around now, 96k probably can be acceptable for some
material.
I believe Any Audio Converter will accept a mp4 file and spit out just
the audio. Not that I've tried to do that but memory serves me right I
once made the mistake of dropping a mp4 file into it rather than Any
Video Converter and it started doing the conversion so ???
Shadow
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Shadow
I'll repeat an older post I made, slightly more detailed.
MP4 (like most other video formats) is a container. It usually
contains a video stream and an audio stream, but it might contain
subtitle or other streams.
To determine exactly what streams your .MP4 contains, you need a tool
like Mediainfo Lite.
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Windows
To determine the streams, yes; to do what the OP wanted (extract the
audio), no. Although what you've explained/described is a good way to do
it. But - given that the post was/is in Windows 'groups - I think the OP
would probably prefer a GUI method. (Of which I've posted three, and
others have others.) Granted, the three I use don't make it _obvious_
how to do an extraction without recoding, though I think they _can_.
[]
Post by Shadow
You will find most music from YouTube and other sites is
piss-awful in quality. Usually 96.0 kb/s. You can see that with
Mediainfo before extracting, of course, but Mediainfo gives you the
nominal value, Spek does a full analysis.
HTH
[]'s
Depends what it is wanted for. For listening to on a variety of the
portable devices around now, 96k probably can be acceptable for some
material.
I believe Any Audio Converter will accept a mp4 file and spit out just
the audio. Not that I've tried to do that but memory serves me right I
once made the mistake of dropping a mp4 file into it rather than Any
Video Converter and it started doing the conversion so ???
Well, I just extracted the sound from a 1 hour video. It took
exactly 8 seconds, on my > 10 year old PC.
If Any Audio Converter takes the same time (or less, on a
faster CPU) it's copying, more than that, it's converting.
Conversion always implies loss of quality.
[]'s
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tesla sTinker
2018-07-15 19:12:52 UTC
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we use the audio editor, its free.
http://www.eartmedia.com/
Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
Reinhard Skarbal
2018-07-16 06:32:55 UTC
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Post by tesla sTinker
we use the audio editor, its free.
http://www.eartmedia.com/
Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
Hi

I'm using DVBPortal MP4 Multiplexer/Demultiplexer Version 0.9.3
from http://www.dvbportal.de/projects/mp4muxer
Choose DEMULTIPLEX, select the mp4-file, select the audio-trac click
demultiplex and in a few seconds you have the audio-file in the original
version. Extracted without any conversion.

Regards
Reinhard
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Post by tesla sTinker
we use the audio editor, its free.
http://www.eartmedia.com/
Post by WinUser
I used Win 7 movie maker to extract a portion of a .MP4.
Now I want to extract the music to a windows compatible music file.
Then put on my cell phone.
Can something on Windows 7 or XP do this ?
If not, is there a free application to do this?
TIA
Hi
I'm using DVBPortal MP4 Multiplexer/Demultiplexer Version 0.9.3
from http://www.dvbportal.de/projects/mp4muxer
Choose DEMULTIPLEX, select the mp4-file, select the audio-trac click
demultiplex and in a few seconds you have the audio-file in the original
version. Extracted without any conversion.
Regards
Reinhard
There are lots of such extractors. I'm currently using Pazera Free Audio
Extractor - see http://www.pazera-software.com/products/audio-extractor/
for details including the input and output formats it can do (I don't
know what your 'phone needs, but it's a big list - it can also extract
the unconverted original).
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