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masonc
2018-08-05 08:09:49 UTC
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Opera displays a local file page at 85% of screen width but
the same page online displays at 60% of screen width.

Other browsers show the 85% width online or local.

In any case, width liquidity for mobile is ok.

Why would online differ from local file (only on Opera).

Yes, I've rattled Opera Help and forums and checked my
uploads of html and css.

[Please don't go ranting about my web page -- it's working
fine for me.]

Mason Clark frontal-lobe.info (stay away)

p.s. "abandon Opera" is a permissible response.
Paul
2018-08-05 12:56:32 UTC
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Post by masonc
Opera displays a local file page at 85% of screen width but
the same page online displays at 60% of screen width.
Other browsers show the 85% width online or local.
In any case, width liquidity for mobile is ok.
Why would online differ from local file (only on Opera).
Yes, I've rattled Opera Help and forums and checked my
uploads of html and css.
[Please don't go ranting about my web page -- it's working
fine for me.]
Mason Clark frontal-lobe.info (stay away)
p.s. "abandon Opera" is a permissible response.
Opera has:

1) Two entirely different development streams.
Some help pages you may find, are for the old version.
The development streams exist to make designing
the browser easier, not to "preserve feature set".

2) A browser-wide scale setting. This is something a user
might adjust, if they just bought a 4K screen.

3) Site-specific preference recording
(perhaps you used control-scroll to set the
scale or something, on a previous visit).

I doubt modifying something in CSS Style is
going to override every option the browser has got.

A local file would be a "different site" than a
file fetched from your web server.

Some browsers use a multiplicity of database
files, and the entries are tied together
in all the files. Trying to edit just one
database file (like delete a web site from it)
will leave "leftovers" in the other files.
One editor I tried to use, didn't really understand
the schema, so it could not really intelligently
alter things. But what it did allow me to do,
is change a boolean in one of the rows. So if
you don't delete entries, but just change a
parameter for a site, that's a little bit safer.
Adjusting a site can be safer than deleting it.

It's a web browser - be careful what you wish for...

Paul
Stan Brown
2018-08-05 19:11:21 UTC
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3) Site-specific preference recording
(perhaps you used control-scroll to set the
scale or something, on a previous visit).
Firefox has that too. I was surprised initially, but now I like it.
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Mayayana
2018-08-05 13:43:39 UTC
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"masonc" <***@frontal-lobe.info> wrote

| Opera displays a local file page at 85% of screen width but
| the same page online displays at 60% of screen width.
|
A page doesn't display relative to screen width. It
displays in pixels or as a percentage of the browser
window width. You didn't link to the webpage so it's
hard to say what's happening. My guess would be
a difference in CSS. Do you have the same CSS locally?

Opera is also famous for design idealism rather than
realism. Their browser never took off because it was
too unforgiving in the way it rendered pages. But I
haven't tried it for some time and it's been changed,
so I don't know if that's still an issue.
PeterC
2018-08-05 13:49:53 UTC
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Post by Mayayana
| Opera displays a local file page at 85% of screen width but
| the same page online displays at 60% of screen width.
|
A page doesn't display relative to screen width. It
displays in pixels or as a percentage of the browser
window width. You didn't link to the webpage so it's
hard to say what's happening. My guess would be
a difference in CSS. Do you have the same CSS locally?
Opera is also famous for design idealism rather than
realism. Their browser never took off because it was
too unforgiving in the way it rendered pages. But I
haven't tried it for some time and it's been changed,
so I don't know if that's still an issue.
Much to my disappointment, it is now Chrome.
v12.16 (or.17) was the last of the ProperOpera.
When Jon was about to start Vivaldi I hoped that it would be Opera, but no,
it's bloody Chrome again!

I uase Fx for a while, then Cyberfox and then discovered Pale Moon, so I'm
happy now.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway
masonc
2018-08-05 23:19:42 UTC
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I hate it when I must admit stupidity.
My Opera's *ZOOM* was set at 75%.

And Opera has it's own ideas about how to set and use Zoom.
Best to set 100% on both a local and online pages.

Thanks for your attention, sorry to waste our time.

Mason Clark http://frontal-lobe.info
Post by masonc
Opera displays a local file page at 85% of screen width but
the same page online displays at 60% of screen width.
Other browsers show the 85% width online or local.
In any case, width liquidity for mobile is ok.
Why would online differ from local file (only on Opera).
Yes, I've rattled Opera Help and forums and checked my
uploads of html and css.
[Please don't go ranting about my web page -- it's working
fine for me.]
Mason Clark frontal-lobe.info (stay away)
p.s. "abandon Opera" is a permissible response.
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